PS4

[momadaddy]

share button. any thoughts?

[Ladd279]

I've supported Sony all the way through so ill def get it, I missed the stream they had but been reading during work breaks. Controller looks weird but sure ill adjust, share button I love, apparently they went all out graphics wise read its better than 720 is suppose to be, also read there might be paid services which I'm fine with also. About to buy a vita which you'll be able to use on ps4 like the wii u so that'll be sweet

[schnavolda]

the share button's secondary function is sharing stuff, the primary function is turning you into a viral ad tool in your friendslist. what better way to market games than free ads on everybody's fb walls.

i want none of that stupid social crap on my console. i want to play games and that's about it. i don't need it a big ass digital footprint all over the internet.

[NotedDerk]

graphics wise read its better than 720 is suppose to be

To be fair, you don't know that, and i'm going to face palm if they actually call it the xbox720, haha.

and I second schnavolda's post, I don't sit around trying to make sure everyone sees the latest achievement/trophy I got or anything relating to that.

[Ladd279]

It's more than just posting on Facebook, it's partnered with ustream. Like its own little pvr

"Speaking at today's Sony event, the PlayStation 4's lead system architect, Mark Cerny said players will be able to hit the "share" button on the PS4 controller, scan through the minutes of a game they've played, pick and tag the segments they want to upload, and the video will be uploaded while the player returns to the game"

[bengrover]

Was a little dissapointing from Sony. They've had years to come up with a mesmorising, "HOLY SHIT" event, yet nothing really struck me as that. Seemed like a slot at E3, not their own Playstation event. I'm never going to be a fan of touchpad on a controller. Why do we need it? If it aint broke... Share button will be fun for a few minutes though.

And for it to be released in a matter of months and them not show us the actual console was a real stinker.

inFamous Second Son looks cool though from the tiny bit we saw. Have been sold on Watch Dogs since E3 last year, and that short Demo last night just sold it to me all over again.

Not 100% sold on the PS4 yet, but I know I'm gonna end up getting one anyway, just liek eevry other one. God damn it.

[Jebotek]

Im pretty hyped on Watch Dogs, Destiny, Diablo 3 and of Course Driveclub. Beside that im stoked to see what the Devs come up with in the Future.

[m.seven]

i'm sure i'll eventually get one,but seeing as i just got a new ps3 it won't be any time soon.
don't really care about all the social networking stuff,and not too hyped on paying to play online.i already pay $50 a year for ps+

[i am a snail]

a few awesome looking games+
no backward compatibility-
remote play with vita (meh)
pig disgusting controller-
share button- (why)
pay for online gaming-
maybe no used games-

sony gets a big why/10 from me

[bengrover]

no backward compatibility-


I didn't understand this bit. Did they say something about it might happen eventually?

[m.seven]

just read on ign that the inability to play used games is a false rumor,so that's good to hear.
the graphics look amazing from what's been shown,could care less for streaming games and digital...i'm old school,give me my disc in a box.
touchscreen controllers belong on the Wii

[i am a snail]

I didn't understand this bit. Did they say something about it might happen eventually?

they told us that you could play ps3 games, but you would have to re-buy them from the store

[Seanne1986]

God I want this game so baaad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6W8MSJtgKQ

[m.seven]

they told us that you could play ps3 games, but you would have to re-buy them from the store
i've got over 50 games on my shelf plus whatever's on my hd,i'll keep my ps3 for that.
i'm just hoping they support psn,ps+,etc. on ps3 for some time in the future and don't shuffle it all to ps4

[Demzilla]

the whole play s1 2 3 games via g word service interests me...
obviously its not all games but how can sony determine what i want to play...

it said all this social dynamivc of knowing what you want to play before you queue it ect...
if all i have is skate related games..
could g word service offer classics like thrasher via g word service...


i just wanna play thrasher more...

coughmyfriendmovesinaugandigetherps2cough
coughmailmy4copiesofthrashertomyselffromfloridacou gh

[doggdx666]

M.seven - yes but you would be able to make edits from the ps4 and yes they will keep supporting ps3,ps+,psn because they made announcement on that
Snail- If you have a ps3 and and a Ps4 why care for backwards incompatibility /only reason you are mad at any of the ps4 is because you got a xbox and now your a fan boy but from what seems what xbox wont be released till 2014

[m.seven]

i wanna see more on the editing video feature,see what it can actually do.didn't see the psn/+ details so glad they'll continue to support my broke ass

[Ayreon]

im stoked on the video uploading. No longer have to rely on ea servers


Snail is bitching about the controller but it looks awesome. Joysticks look better. I hear some bitching that they kept the same small controller design that some hate. But I think even more people would be pissed off if they changed it too much. They've had that since PS1 and people are used to it.


The touch thing will have little to do in game. I will be a small detail here and there

you forgetting about the light on the back of the controller. It acts like play station move.

You can watch friends play their games in real time. And even take over their controller if they let you and u can help them beat hard parts and stuff
they talked about using friend chat from the PS to the vita do phones and tablets.

We also have to understand there was no way they could reveal everything. Cant show all their tricks. Xbox hasent said shit yet. And Xbox is good at stealing ideas. Completely ripped off Nintendo Mii's lol.

I wonder if they're keeping PS Home.
The last one was a fail cause they released it far too early. There was nothing to it. Then people lost interest.

Like the psp, the ps4 does the thing where you turn it off,you can turn it back on and you will be at the exact same spot in ur game with no loading

No more demos. You can play games from the store with cloud gaming and try it that way. U play it immediately.
Everything can download in the background.

If you buy a game, you can play it almost right away. You dont have to wait for the entire thing to download. You cant start playing it as it is still downloading

theres some other cool shit mentioned i forget

[i am a snail]

Snail- If you have a ps3 and and a Ps4 why care for backwards incompatibility /only reason you are mad at any of the ps4 is because you got a xbox and now your a fan boy but from what seems what xbox wont be released till 2014
fucking lol not at all
ive been a sony fanboy since the beginning. i have owned every system they have put out since the ps1, including the vita, which was a christmas gift. the vita really isn't that great of a portable system at all, it's too large and cumbersome to fit into my pocket nicely and i'm not about to whip it out of a backpack to play persona 4 on the bus. the social network sharing seems like nothing more than free advertisement for other games, and frankly why should any of my facebook friends know when i'm playing a video game? and the "paying for online features" is mostly what kept me in sony's pocket for the longest time, since their online service was free as opposed to xbox live.

edit: in regards to the controller, it was more of a question of "why bother with the touch capabilities?" if you're going to keep the same small controller design, why put this massive block in the middle that doesn't really do anything other than be an awkward addition that takes up design space?

[m.seven]

every new console gen there's a ton of cool bells and whistles,some useful some just eye candy.
idk,my ps3 does everything i'd care to be able to do with a game system for the time being.
guess i could just care less about having the latest thing on the market anymore..old age has brought a sense of practicality

as far as the controller having touch screen and move functions..meh.i bought all that move stuff and used it maybe 5 times and sold it

[Ayreon]

edit: in regards to the controller, it was more of a question of "why bother with the touch capabilities?" if you're going to keep the same small controller design, why put this massive block in the middle that doesn't really do anything other than be an awkward addition that takes up design space?

before they just had the start select and home buttons. rarely used select. Not sure where the home button is. Your finger hardly went to that area. So its not taking up space in terms of play. and design space? Who gives a fuck what the controller looks like? What is this, fucking apple where everything they do is fancy dancy looking and overpriced. Your eyes will be to your TV. I know im going to like its feel. Same as PS3. Looks a bit more comfortable. Function > form

It will be used like the back of the vita. that touch pad is used for minute parts of games but its a cool addition to change the play up.




as far as the controller having touch screen and move functions..meh.i bought all that move stuff and used it maybe 5 times and sold it
cause there was limited games for it
but now its standard. So almost every game will take advantage of it. And you dont need any extra stuff or specialized games. That why you barely played it. Just focused on other games. And again its not going to be pure move stuff. It's just something extra for developers to play with

Might not see if now, but if your a metal gear solid fan, you know Kojima is one of the most creative minds out there. And I look forward to see what he come up with these

[m.seven]

wasn't for lack of games,just couldn't get into it.just not my thing i guess.
i've heard talk of integrating it to the dualshock 4 so didnt come as a surprise.

i'm sure i'll eventually get one,just not gonna be soon.can't justify spending another $400-600 on a new system when the ps3 works just fine.

[NotedDerk]

Is it that fucking hard to talk about consoles without it turning into a debate? I've yet to see it happen.

[momadaddy]

http://i45.tinypic.com/161fbyr.jpg

i for one am not looking forward to the pricing of the new consoles. the 8gb of ddr5 in the ps4 is pricey by itself

[replicant]

PS4 Summed Up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

Ok, I have 3 things that make PS4 "win" in my book.
1) Watch Dogs
2) Ability to play Thrasher: Skate and Destroy/Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX and stream them easily for your friends.
3) Watch Dogs

[Ayreon]

Is it that fucking hard to talk about consoles without it turning into a debate? I've yet to see it happen.
Yes.
Everyone is different and they have different opinions. I have yet to see the "SONY SUX, XBOX IS BETTUR LUL!" reply. or visa versa xbox sux, ps3 haazah!.....so we're doing pretty good. Dont see the problem.


PS4 Summed Up:
[video]

ahah its like a mantaray with pants

[i am a snail]

PS4 Summed Up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

"i have this really wierd thing for cars i just wanna touch em i just wanna be with em"

i am laughing audibly in my college's food court and people are looking at me.

[bengrover]

And even take over their controller if they let you and u can help them beat hard parts and stuff

From the odd posts I've read through on various sites, people seem stoked about this.

Doesn't this take away the reward and whole aim of playing a video game? I don't know anyone who plays a game that doesn't want to complete any of the actual game themselves. Whats the point?

Definitely a feature that won't even be looked at for me.

[m.seven]

i am a DRAGON!!

[Ladd279]

Every new system is getting rid of used games not just Sony, suppose drop price for games tho

[ItsFJ]

social network i see as being another fb
spectate mode would be useful for those who do gameplay commentaries and it make it easier for them personal
share button i wouldnt mind for sharing stuff with friends, just not to the whole world
Drive club is prob the game i want most including watch dogs and lbp

[exoskate89]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/164421_555587727799044_587769521_n.jpg

[echoturbo]

im a xbox person

[Ayreon]

social network i see as being another fb


The social network IS partially facebook.
They are working with FB. They will be connected

[Ladd279]

I like the way things are headed, pretty sure something's will change between now and release tho. Their going back to a gamers system like they were with ps1,ps2. They tried the whole "in your living room" approach with ps3 not saying it didn't work but now that they did that certain people aren't gonna be happy if the "payment services" are true.

Btw people there is so such thing as the "best" so arguing is pointless

[Demzilla]

but about thrasher...




i read something somewhere...
basically the machine records up to "mins" of previous "gameplay" and you can "scroll" through it and "decide" what "parts" you want to upload...

sounds hella fishy to me...
also ps+ only...
and ps+ will be $80 instead of $50...

(shruggs)




sidenote...

was thinking....
an update to register your discs...
disc in....registers disc to user...
if connected....
g word service and psn recognize ownership of game...
boom...
free full stream via g word service...

it would suck to start over with no game save but thats something they came out and said the ps4 will not do...
which to me...
i get it....you want us to use your console as much as possible....
its dick..
but i get it...

obviously someone with shit or no internet wont get this update but that still stands for any update today so that null and void...


just thinking...

[Permy]

watch dogs is also going to be on xbox 360 and ps3 so..

also share it.
i want to see what knack is like though
and deep down
synergy
share it

also there's a touch screen on the controller HOW MUCH COOLER CAN IT THE GET

FUCKING SYNERGY!

[Ladd279]

Read and told watch dogs will be strict new gen game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=5hjx2Sd52U4

[i am a snail]

Read and told watch dogs will be strict new gen game.
the official ubisoft site for the game says XBOX 360 on it in big white letters...

[NotedDerk]

Read and told watch dogs will be strict new gen game.

Microsoft Windows
PlayStation 3
PlayStation 4
Wii U
Xbox 360


You sure about that?

[Antwan]

I've yet to see a reason to buy a PS4.

I bet the best computers will still do more than next gen consoles.

[m.seven]

I bet the best computers will still do more than next gen consoles.
same as it's always been really,console makers could probably step that up if they'd focus on the gaming and not the social connectivity.

[Antwan]

The thing that bugs me most
The main reason I got into xbox was because it was different
Now I'm betting they will follow in Sony's Footsteps.
I'm not ready for small screens on controllers, Kinect/Move Dominate, Streaming games.
Next-Gen is going to suck the more it progresses.

[Mark Murderous]

im a xbox person
Microsoft 4 Lyfe. lulz

[m.seven]

Microsoft 4 Lyfe. lulz
there're pills that can help with that

[PoppySquidJr]

Man the PS4 looks like overpriced garbage, and seeing this makes me not even WANT to know what Microsoft plans on doing. Grabbing an Ouya, everything else can suck it.


I've yet to see a reason to buy a PS4.

I bet the best computers will still do more than next gen consoles.

Computers from 2008 still do more than these consoles have shown, you can find comparisons online

[m.seven]

they forgot about games and just decided to make a $600 facebook app.

[andreas]

the ouya is poop steven.

[DaaGooN]

I already got a High end Media center PC. so now they want me to buy a HTPC = to 2009 in spec? huh.

Both consoles will be DX11.1/AMD 8core + 64x bit , on board APU. = about ATI 7670. 8GB Ram sony with DDR5/Xbox DDR? all on x86 base. in other words, the games will look the same on both and pc..

everything else they have to offer is to get as much info about you and your lives as possible. Spy/listen/Monitor YOU!!

im saying it now. both will retail for around $300 basic -400+ bigger HDD.. based on bundles.

as for Pony 4. why is the Eyebar a plugin? could they not just stick the censor in the console like the new xbox has done with kinect? = Look & Listen :)

Who cares.. If your Rich like Perm you will own Both.:rolleyes:

[Ladd279]

Glad eyebar isn't in system like kinect, never been to keen on kinect especially since it never turns off...

[Fecal Face]

they forgot about games and just decided to make a $600 facebook app.

I laughed at this so hard but it's almost true

I don't think I could ever switch to Sony, the Xbox controller just feels so much more natural for gaming. The PS(whatever) controllers feel like toys and I hate the sticks and triggers.

[Antwan]

I laughed at this so hard but it's almost true

I don't think I could ever switch to Sony, the Xbox controller just feels so much more natural for gaming. The PS(whatever) controllers feel like toys and I hate the sticks and triggers.
Right?
Funny thing is I started off on Playstations before Xboxes
PSONE, PS2, PS2 Slim, Original Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox Slim
But I couldn't go back to the playstation setup to save my life.

[doggdx666]

The Xbox Controller feels like a football with buttons attached and they put a touch pad on the ps4 controller big deal Microsoft is making you have to have a kinnect

plus the point of online gaming is friend based so it is a cool feature not to much caring that its link to facebook but still cool

why would anyone from xbox care so much the xbox 360 is just a all social network type of console and now people are starting to just watch movies on it

Here are my remarks and some of your answers nitpick away

P.S. Ps4 Nation V.S. The Kinnectbox

[m.seven]

i miss my Atari 2600

[NotedDerk]

What did I tell you ayreon?

[Mark the Sith]

No one likes the new consoles?

Go build your own.

Don't like the new controllers?

Go build your own.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

[Hitmanx123]

No one likes the new consoles?

Go build your own.

Don't like the new controllers?

Go build your own.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
^^^^^^

[Monk]

ill stay with PC just for the fact mines better spec than ps4 and also have the luxury of playing real FPS gaming with mouse/keyboard... joysticks just cant compare period.

[Antwan]

No one likes the new consoles?

Go build your own.

Don't like the new controllers?

Go build your own.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
Nice Contribution.
You make a tough argument.
I'm saying it seems less like they are making the consoles for the players
more like.. Following the technology craze. If that makes any sense.
Hey our consoles don't preform the best and sometimes they ring and die
let's put more screens on it and make more movement based games.
More features! They'll never stop buying our shitty consoles then.

[oKwiider]

watch dogs and destiny. everything else was nonsense and oldmen. but if one of these contraptions just so happens to support mods then im sold. oh and we need a better selection of independent games. otherwise i'll most likely hop on the pc train. at least until the price drops.

and doggs what the hell are you talking about?

[Ladd279]

Saying computers have better specs/graphic than ps4 is completely irrelevant, computers have and always will have better specs/graphics than a console. Why compare it now

[Antwan]

Saying computers have better specs/graphic than ps4 is completely irrelevant, computers have and always will have better specs/graphics than a console. Why compare it now
Not just PS4..
Next-Gen consoles in general just don't seem very Next-Gen to me.
I think that It seems odd they can't preform like computers yet or maybe never will.