Overcrooks on Handrails

[[Moose]]

Recently, I heard some people say they aren't possible. Or they're just nosegrinds.

If you think this way can you please tell me why?

[[Moose]]

If this aint an overcrook, I dont know what is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mW_YbKMg#t=69s

[NotedDerk]

I've heard the same shit, was watching this one dude try a shuv to overcrook on this little handrail at a college and when we were talking about it, three or so people tried to correct me that it was a shuv to nosegrind. I thought they were idiotic, his fucking back truck was hanging off like a foot to the side of the rail, in the grind, no where near lined up with it.

In the end, it still looks cool, but some people get so butt hurt over the correct terminology.

[Slamooh]

i hear retarded people every day
I guess it's a widespread disease.

[fallingskyline]

just ask malto if overcrooks are possible...

[EmmitBrown]

whether they exist or not, i do 'em

[Antwan]

Nosegrind.. eh.. kingpins are lined up for sure
Nose manny type situation
I think It looks dope when the skater balances on the nose grind, Love that shit.
Haven't seen it often on handrails though shit's so quick in and out people skate the gnarliest shit too.
I never really understood skate terminology because at the least
around where I live people make up their own names for tricks that aren't commonly done by locals.
Grinds, I get.. took me a while to learn a majority of them though
but when you start throwing shit at me like
Disco Flip, Nightmare Flip
It's hard to keep track.. I hardly know what fliptricks have proper names anymore haha
When I first started skating me and my friends would just go to the park and hype the skaters
Just enjoyed watching em never really knew all of the tricks and I still don't
Can't say anyone has got upset at me for calling a trick wrong but Maybe it's just where you live.
Wouldn't be an antwan post without mention of prog
Skateboarding is a progressive sport but we all progress a little differently
and I think the areas that we live in contribute to that a little bit as well
There's a lot of frustration, anger, joy, love and passion in skateboarding
Just Don't take those guys too seriously They are likely still learning, don't care to learn
and or otherwise Just having fun

[EmmitBrown]

Grape flips!

[Antwan]

Exactly.
Grape Flips.
Sums it up.

[Legba]

If you cant overcrook a rail, then you shouldnt be able to crook a rail either by that logic.
And if that were true, then Koston wouldve ran around nosegrinding all the rails on our planet and a K-grind would refer to a nosegrind and not a crook.....So fuck yeah its possible! If your front truck is grinding and your tail is not aligned with whatever youre grinding.....its not a nosegrind.

[Goat]

If you cant overcrook a rail, then you shouldnt be able to crook a rail either by that logic.
And if that were true, then Koston wouldve ran around nosegrinding all the rails on our planet and a K-grind would refer to a nosegrind and not a crook.....So fuck yeah its possible! If your front truck is grinding and your tail is not aligned with whatever youre grinding.....its not a nosegrind.

I hear idiots say it's impossible to do a straight nosegrind on a handrail without tweaking it so it's a nosegrind not an overcrook
I almost flipped a table

[m.seven]

I hear idiots say it's impossible to do a straight nosegrind on a handrail without tweaking it so it's a nosegrind not an overcrook
I almost flipped a table

it's usually the ones that can't do either trick that say shit that ridiculously stupid.

[fallingskyline]

i say it is possible to do a straight nosegrind (or something that is close to) and to do both krooks and overkrooks. if you know what you are doing than you can straight nosegrind. and the thing with not standing straight is stupid, you won't grind a rail perfectly in the middle of the truck, you'll always kinda "lock in" with one wheel, but your back truck can be over the rail!

now please end this stupid conversation...

[Fecal Face]

now please end this stupid conversation...

Yes. Why is this even being brought up, every real skateboarder should know the damned difference.

[PoppySquidJr]

Yes. Why is this even being brought up, every real skateboarder should know the damned difference.

It's brought up because if you look at the initial post, Moose wants to know where the other thought process even comes from, he was hoping to see someone who sees it differently and try to understand why the see it that way. :V

[briden]

Damn I hate to see so many people thinking this way. Until someone actually does a straight fs nosegrind on a handrail, there is no such thing as a fs overcrook.

[Legba]

^Hilarious

[Fecal Face]

Damn I hate to see so many people thinking this way. Until someone actually does a straight fs nosegrind on a handrail, there is no such thing as a fs overcrook.

Hoping this is sarcasm~

It's brought up because if you look at the initial post, Moose wants to know where the other thought process even comes from, he was hoping to see someone who sees it differently and try to understand why the see it that way. :V

I was talking out of my ass too much I think haha.


If there are no overcrooks, there are no crooks.

Get it?

[PoppySquidJr]

Hoping this is sarcasm~



I was talking out of my ass too much I think haha.


If there are no overcrooks, there are no crooks.

Get it?

Aw man I think my sarcasm went way over your head. Poor delivery on my part, I apologize. I was trying to emphasize the silliness of this thread

[Fecal Face]

I was trying to emphasize the silliness of this thread

[EG Fr0sty]

So there's no salads???

[briden]

Hoping this is sarcasm~

If there's such a thing as fs overcrooks, then I'm still waiting to see a fs nosegrind on a handrail.

[Antwan]

If there's such a thing as fs overcrooks, then I'm still waiting to see a fs nosegrind on a handrail.

Well, to be fair..
Wouldn't FS Nose Grind, FS Overcrooks just be the side of the rail you approach?
It may not look like much of a change once you're in the grind but
I would imagine it's more difficult to approach the other side of the rail
and tweak the other way if you're unfamiliar.
Thus labeling them front side, back side?

Also, Not entirely sure but I'm using what I know and trying to learn here aswell but
I think that's how you get the term fs bs blunt, etc.
Approach frontside, turn back side blunt.

[briden]

Well, to be fair..
Wouldn't FS Nose Grind, FS Overcrooks just be the side of the rail you approach?
It may not look like much of a change once you're in the grind but
I would imagine it's more difficult to approach the other side of the rail
and tweak the other way if you're unfamiliar.
Thus labeling them front side, back side?

Also, Not entirely sure but I'm using what I know and trying to learn here aswell but
I think that's how you get the term fs bs blunt, etc.
Approach frontside, turn back side blunt.

Yeah fs and bs refer to which part of you is facing what you're about to grind. So your body turns frontside for a backside boardslide. But you turn frontside for a frontside lipslide.

My whole point wasn't necessarily stuck on the fs/bs stance, it was that no one's ever done a frontside "nosegrind" straight on a rail. So the term "overcrook" is implied backside, just like a Suski grind.

[Antwan]

I understand what you're saying now
Suski grind.. 5-0 tweaked out?
But this looks frontside to me
Sean Malto
2:29

[briden]

I understand what you're saying now
Suski grind.. 5-0 tweaked out?
But this looks frontside to me
Sean Malto
2:29

Yeah, almost a back tail but still grinding on the truck.

The thing about a bs overcrook is that it's gnarlier than a bs nosegrind. BUT if someone did a straight fs nosegrind, it'd be way more impressive than the way malto did.

[Antwan]

I feel like I might have seen one in a video at one point..
Might be mistaken though.

[Cerebus_]

[Goat]

I feel like I might have seen one in a video at one point..
Might be mistaken though.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it has been done before. There's tons of skaters out there in the world someone has to have done it, video or not
I bet Malto has a clip of him doing it somewhere hahaha

[Fecal Face]

way harder

[i am a snail]

http://youtu.be/G1aviP9C_qI?t=1m42s
boom

[Legba]

http://youtu.be/G1aviP9C_qI?t=1m42s
boom

Fuckin boyish, love that vid.

[XImortalDEATHX]

If they tweak the shit out of it, I believe it's a FS Overcrook.

[EG Fr0sty]

If overcrooks aren't real then neither is Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny, or Slash!

[echoturbo]

if im going to believe anyone about skateboarding its briden he know almost everything about it i can ask him anything and he knows the answer and how much you guys are gonna hate on this but briden.

if anyone can do a fs nosegrind down a hand rail please show me

[Rushiie]

if im going to believe anyone about skateboarding its briden he know almost everything about it i can ask him anything and he knows the answer and how much you guys are gonna hate on this but briden.

if anyone can do a fs nosegrind down a hand rail please show me

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[echoturbo]

yep

[EG Fr0sty]

What makes Briden more capable of answering a stupid question like this then anyone else on here???

You pretty much just said that Briden knows more about skateboarding then anyone else on this website.

Flame on!

[Fecal Face]

why does this thread still exist

[Jebotek]

cause its actually a damn fun read