New Jack vs. OG

[Antwan]

AntwanAintDead
A Part of me believes that anyone who says they don't care what others think is full of shit.
If you didn't care what others thought you likely wouldn't be so public about what you do on the game
let alone be apart of one or more communities about the game to share what you do with smaller audiences
You wouldn't thank anyone in your topics for their comments if you didn't care what people thought.
Skate is an operation that runs on more than a few good skaters.
It's something that grew and continues to grow
Based on feedback, Good vibes, Fun times, Players new and old.
Contributions, Distribution and a Continuance.

I can't say my next video will be better than my last as it's not a part of my process.
I fine tune what I can and other tricks will be done a certain way until or even if I can figure how to do them cleaner.
Me and Skate go way back but I really only continue to think and invent due to the amount of inspiring content.
No Skate, No Community, No Antwan-Style.

[Slamooh]

too many pointless videos these days

[m.seven]

too many pointless videos these days

i'm sure the guys putting out these vids see a point to them,all a matter of opinion.
better than nobody posting vids at all

[Demzilla]

fucked up part is most og heads were around when everything sucked so we got a pass on shit being shit when in actuality it was just learning.
everyone has shitty parts...



great thread...
to me i see the community at a very hard point in its life...

new guys "suck" because its there first few goes(understandable).....
we have to help them get past shit and straight to...this is how you do it for this feel...faze...
the og heads kinda need to teach the learning curve...
we dont have a lot of tuts here because i would thing its a verbal conversation as opposed to "instructions" on whats what in a specific style...

the new guys kinda need to do some actual homework....
im new...this is a clip..how did i film it...i really like toy machine so...im going for this feel...i watch a lot of tno films...
that understanding before a video helps older heads out tremendously..
so much so it might actually get a response thats at least an idea of where you want to go...



people like tricks differently...
if its filmed well the og heads that hate the trick wont mind it cause it worked with the edit...
it blended in with the style of the video...
so already showing up the table with some general know how of the filming ingame and basic editing is key...

or ask...




slam...
make them better...
you have good shit and your still on the line of being listened too and taken seriously...
you have weight here...
use it...
just dont be so dicky about it.


waiting for people to get better....
worst idea ever....

sidenote...
i dont say shit because new mother fuckers dont tell me what they want...
how the fuck can i say anything if you cant even tell me your happy with the shit you just edited....


help me help you

[bohemian]

as this has been a creative outlet, its geting harder and harder to produce original stuff.. first years with new games and cities gave tons of new opportunities. now, most have been done, explored and tried, which makes watching new videos less interesting. a new game, with new terrain, new animations and techniques would turn back time to when this was rad. i still see the occasional gem, but they are far and few between.

[m.seven]

as this has been a creative outlet, its geting harder and harder to produce original stuff.. first years with new games and cities gave tons of new opportunities. now, most have been done, explored and tried, which makes watching new videos less interesting. a new game, with new terrain, new animations and techniques would turn back time to when this was rad. i still see the occasional gem, but they are far and few between.

that all makes perfect sense,i just try to remember that what's old to some of us is brand new to the guys just coming into the community.

[Roccityroller]

I'm on the fence about this one.. I see what everyone is saying.. I don't come on here anymore and go right to the footage section to watch vids. And the stuff that impresses me and I comment on is stuff where the feel was right. The whole package worked together but didn't leave my jaw on the floor.

But I think we've gotten lax, and I find this whenever we go to film a full. I try to make my full parts all pc and this time I've focused on finding new (to me) spots and I keep finding new stuff to skate, which amazes me this long into the game.

And Demz the new guys need to WANT to be helped, a lot of them don't. They did what they did and it's work to get things to the point we all have them today. Think about all the things that have come and gone.. Popless, for example... Most of the kids who came on in s3 probably never had to learn that, but think of all the online sessions the ogs have been in to figure all that out, body vars, perfect look, true switch. Half of it was the hunt, finding out how to break the engine. The new guys don't have the same respect for that stuff because they weren't involved in figuring it out.

[Hitmanx123]

coming up on the whole year ive been filming my new part i honestly have been trying to do shit that ive never really seen anybody and at familiar and unfamiliar spots. the city of port uglyton has taken its toll, no lie there, but theres still room to improve and ionnovate. if you want you can lurk my reel and see what im working on. but i guess for me, being an oldie and still trying to push things my biggest goal is to do those "stand out" tricks. the ones that take literally and hour to get.

for some these tricks look ridiculous as fuck, andfor some they mayjust turn their head and go da fuq did i jus watch?". but its all perspective. i respect the new jacks (sorry for not really clarifying whats a new jack and whats og, but thats for you to decide), i respect the new jacks for the way they film and persistantly try to come up with new content, even if its just a minute and half of kickflip bs noseslides. its progression in someway, and i know they will improve of stuff or add stuff or make something that will be the next Grand Larceny/ABD/Concrete Jungle/Laviathain video.
i just hope that the OG's can still put out some "wow" material (which i have seen no doubt) and not just expect their reputation to live on hype alone.

again i am STILL filming my part. started sometime before summer last year

[emericaridr11]

too many pointless videos these days

if they have fun making them..... Not Pointless

[Slamooh]

yeah guys you're probably right
but from a viewer's point of view, less wow moments.

[emericaridr11]

yeah guys you're probably right
but from a viewer's point of view, less wow moments.

thats when i say YOU make a video that you think is good..... everyone expects others to make a video that THEY enjoy
hardly makes sense.... but of course im a Newbie

i aint fading, Fun vids allday, goofy, wild shit

[Slamooh]

ok
pointless was a bit harsh but you kinda get me wrong
i m enjoying fun, goofy, wild shit... as much as perfect filming, creative use of spots, details, etc...
but sometimes i feel like there was more "personality", more "specific" details and recognizable stuff... and these make a good video too

demz, my mistake. i didn't want to be dicky. you're right about the help me help you thingy. Get creative, make it your own, etc... but they are basics, 101 when you make a video.

reading yours, schnavolda's and eflix's post, i have to admit that there's probably less room for exciting stuff now.

[emericaridr11]

ok
pointless was a bit harsh but you kinda get me wrong
i m enjoying fun, goofy, wild shit... as much as perfect filming, creative use of spots, details, etc...
but sometimes i feel like there was more "personality", more "specific" details and recognizable stuff... and these make a good video too

just aint the same as it used to be, i can understand that

[schnavolda]

yeah guys you're probably right
but from a viewer's point of view, less wow moments.

i know exactly how you feel.

there are dozens of videos with like two or three stand out clips (if they have any at all) and the rest looking like neatly filmed first try stuff, especially on all those super realistic videos.

it's not like the videos a couple of years back were all gold, far from that, but at the moment fewer and fewer really amaze me.

but i think it's hard to still push the boundaries this far in the life cycle of the franchise.