New Jack vs. OG

[Demzilla]

fucked up part is most og heads were around when everything sucked so we got a pass on shit being shit when in actuality it was just learning.
everyone has shitty parts...



great thread...
to me i see the community at a very hard point in its life...

new guys "suck" because its there first few goes(understandable).....
we have to help them get past shit and straight to...this is how you do it for this feel...faze...
the og heads kinda need to teach the learning curve...
we dont have a lot of tuts here because i would thing its a verbal conversation as opposed to "instructions" on whats what in a specific style...

the new guys kinda need to do some actual homework....
im new...this is a clip..how did i film it...i really like toy machine so...im going for this feel...i watch a lot of tno films...
that understanding before a video helps older heads out tremendously..
so much so it might actually get a response thats at least an idea of where you want to go...



people like tricks differently...
if its filmed well the og heads that hate the trick wont mind it cause it worked with the edit...
it blended in with the style of the video...
so already showing up the table with some general know how of the filming ingame and basic editing is key...

or ask...




slam...
make them better...
you have good shit and your still on the line of being listened too and taken seriously...
you have weight here...
use it...
just dont be so dicky about it.


waiting for people to get better....
worst idea ever....

sidenote...
i dont say shit because new mother fuckers dont tell me what they want...
how the fuck can i say anything if you cant even tell me your happy with the shit you just edited....


help me help you

[bohemian]

as this has been a creative outlet, its geting harder and harder to produce original stuff.. first years with new games and cities gave tons of new opportunities. now, most have been done, explored and tried, which makes watching new videos less interesting. a new game, with new terrain, new animations and techniques would turn back time to when this was rad. i still see the occasional gem, but they are far and few between.

[m.seven]

as this has been a creative outlet, its geting harder and harder to produce original stuff.. first years with new games and cities gave tons of new opportunities. now, most have been done, explored and tried, which makes watching new videos less interesting. a new game, with new terrain, new animations and techniques would turn back time to when this was rad. i still see the occasional gem, but they are far and few between.

that all makes perfect sense,i just try to remember that what's old to some of us is brand new to the guys just coming into the community.

[Roccityroller]

I'm on the fence about this one.. I see what everyone is saying.. I don't come on here anymore and go right to the footage section to watch vids. And the stuff that impresses me and I comment on is stuff where the feel was right. The whole package worked together but didn't leave my jaw on the floor.

But I think we've gotten lax, and I find this whenever we go to film a full. I try to make my full parts all pc and this time I've focused on finding new (to me) spots and I keep finding new stuff to skate, which amazes me this long into the game.

And Demz the new guys need to WANT to be helped, a lot of them don't. They did what they did and it's work to get things to the point we all have them today. Think about all the things that have come and gone.. Popless, for example... Most of the kids who came on in s3 probably never had to learn that, but think of all the online sessions the ogs have been in to figure all that out, body vars, perfect look, true switch. Half of it was the hunt, finding out how to break the engine. The new guys don't have the same respect for that stuff because they weren't involved in figuring it out.

[Hitmanx123]

And Demz the new guys need to WANT to be helped, a lot of them don't. They did what they did and it's work to get things to the point we all have them today. Think about all the things that have come and gone.. Popless, for example... Most of the kids who came on in s3 probably never had to learn that, but think of all the online sessions the ogs have been in to figure all that out, body vars, perfect look, true switch. Half of it was the hunt, finding out how to break the engine. The new guys don't have the same respect for that stuff because they weren't involved in figuring it out.

that and most of them wont really need to figurte it out since the game has been tweaked to basically do mnost of the stuf we've done and learn on our own when it wasnt there. hardcore mode basically enables anyone to really do popless and just about all the things we had to really work for in the earlier games.

[Roccityroller]

that and most of them wont really need to figurte it out since the game has been tweaked to basically do mnost of the stuf we've done and learn on our own when it wasnt there. hardcore mode basically enables anyone to really do popless and just about all the things we had to really work for in the earlier games.

This is exactly what I mean. Like i was talking to someone about og and how u had to Ollie 180 up each step to get to the top of a set to find spots... But that's what made those spots awesome... Blew their mind. Its stuff that gets taken advantage of. Shit we don't even have or really need a bounce glitch in s3 cuz u can just stack droppables and climb... Still work, yes, but nowhere near the work of getting to the roof of the og gas station or the roof of oliver in s2

[PoppySquidJr]

This is exactly what I mean. Like i was talking to someone about og and how u had to Ollie 180 up each step to get to the top of a set to find spots... But that's what made those spots awesome... Blew their mind. Its stuff that gets taken advantage of. Shit we don't even have or really need a bounce glitch in s3 cuz u can just stack droppables and climb... Still work, yes, but nowhere near the work of getting to the roof of the og gas station or the roof of oliver in s2

Idk dude, the crooked roof2roof gap on my Noir part took me like 1.5 hours to reach even in s3

[Hitmanx123]

This is exactly what I mean. Like i was talking to someone about og and how u had to Ollie 180 up each step to get to the top of a set to find spots... But that's what made those spots awesome... Blew their mind. Its stuff that gets taken advantage of. Shit we don't even have or really need a bounce glitch in s3 cuz u can just stack droppables and climb... Still work, yes, but nowhere near the work of getting to the roof of the og gas station or the roof of oliver in s2

or it your were REALLY og and had to get somewhere, getting on top of the freeway, ONLINE! that shit was fucking bananas. took lieterally 25 minutes each time. bail-glitch ftw

[Hitmanx123]

coming up on the whole year ive been filming my new part i honestly have been trying to do shit that ive never really seen anybody and at familiar and unfamiliar spots. the city of port uglyton has taken its toll, no lie there, but theres still room to improve and ionnovate. if you want you can lurk my reel and see what im working on. but i guess for me, being an oldie and still trying to push things my biggest goal is to do those "stand out" tricks. the ones that take literally and hour to get.

for some these tricks look ridiculous as fuck, andfor some they mayjust turn their head and go da fuq did i jus watch?". but its all perspective. i respect the new jacks (sorry for not really clarifying whats a new jack and whats og, but thats for you to decide), i respect the new jacks for the way they film and persistantly try to come up with new content, even if its just a minute and half of kickflip bs noseslides. its progression in someway, and i know they will improve of stuff or add stuff or make something that will be the next Grand Larceny/ABD/Concrete Jungle/Laviathain video.
i just hope that the OG's can still put out some "wow" material (which i have seen no doubt) and not just expect their reputation to live on hype alone.

again i am STILL filming my part. started sometime before summer last year

[m.seven]

some,not all(don't wanna generalize),of the newer members have to realize that alot of this is paying your dues in the community.
i've been around for 3 years and still feel like i am,but some just come in and think "i'm the shit,love my videos!" and aren't open to the advice they're given.
biggest problem i see is the closed mindedness of some,new and old.film this way,do these tricks like this,if you don't you suck.
i remember that old "CAP killed creativity" thing from a couple years ago,but honestly i think that closed minded way of thinking did more damage in that respect.

[PoppySquidJr]

Eh, everything I'd say has been said before.
I just try to figure out some sort of new trick to nose/tail back in

[Hitmanx123]

Eh, everything I'd say has been said before.
I just try to figure out some sort of new trick to nose/tail back in

do a kickflip tail, kickflip tail to kickflip tail, flip out