If you want to learn how to differentiate between FS and BS, watch more vert skating and apply it to street.
The confusion arises when you try to determine FS/BS without a reference to where the terms came from.
If you want to learn how to differentiate between FS and BS, watch more vert skating and apply it to street.
The confusion arises when you try to determine FS/BS without a reference to where the terms came from.
I didn't start this thread for an argument. Simply to find out other skateboarders general opinion, and perhaps to educate those who aren't quite sure.
Here are 4 things I know for a fact:
1) After a fakie ollie, EVERYTHING is opposite to nollie. for example - Nollie fs 180 = fakie bs 180 (halfcab). Nollie nosegrind = fakie 5-0. Nollie bs tailslide = fs half cab to frontside noseslide. Nollie fs noseblunt = fakie bs blunt.
2) As for lipslides, same thing applies (remember - if the BACK truck goes over the rail first, it's a lipslide) For example - Nollie fs boardslide = fakie backlip. Nollie bs boardslide = fakie frontlip. (I'm sure you figure out the nollie lipslide variations.)
3) You don't do switch tricks from a fakie ollie. EXCEPT for crooked grinds.
4) The whole "rail behind you = backside, rail in front of you = frontside" only applies when rolling regular (and nollie) and switch.
I've been skateboarding for about 12 years now, and that is what I've ALWAYS known. I'd also recommend referencing The Berrics Trickipedia.
I would still love to hear everyones opinion on this. And if you disagree, explain why. I would love to know.
You're on the right track, but going around the reasoning. The whole equals thing works as a comparison, but it breaks down with smith, crook, feeble, any of the -cane's. The coincidental opposite effect comes from fakie being regular backwards, and nollie being regular forwards on the nose, but fs and bs don't always switch. The concept of fakie was around way before nollie was, and like hesh said it came from vert terminology.
And why make an exception for fakie crooked grinds?
Some people are just so sensitive about this exact discussion, not just talking about this forum. One guy who i've been friends with for quite a few years almost wanted to fight me simply because I said he was doing a back boardside on this flat bar that someone brought to the park, he was calling it a front board and got enraged when I said what it was. I never got upset if I named a trick wrong, if someone saw what I did and I described the trick wrong and he said 'oh, you mean backside mcrib flip?' I wouldn't throw a tantrum over it, just say something like 'Is that what it's called? My bad.'
I have a fun story though, this small child decided to pick up skating and comes to the park once and a while, he never calls tricks frontside or backside, he says 'FS' and 'BS,' literally. If you did a frontside flip against him in skate, he'd say 'was that a fs flip?' We tried telling him what fs and bs means, but his brain won't consume the information, too busy being a child to comprehend actually concentrating on something.
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Is fakie two sided?
Like ok, switch is your dominate pushing foot in front.
What if you're riding "SWITCH" Fakie..
foot placement is switch but you're backwards.
I'm guessing it's not a real thing because it sounds odd but I never did ask anyone.
I was basically saying that he got to the right answer, but skipped a few steps in explaining and missed some crucial points. Most people who started skating more recently seem to think that a fakie ollie is a switch nollie, but that logic makes trick names ridiculously hard to comprehend, again leading back to the vert thing. If you REALLY want I'll write out a long-as-fuck message for you, but I don't want to clog this thread up.
Could you please draw a picture or take a photo because this is confusing, but absolutely fascinating.
for it to be a lip the part of the board popping has to go over the rail or ledge, if it doesn't, it's not a lip