I'm a little let down about hardcore mode. I almost liked the pre patch better. It did throw you away at times, but the added hardness factor was kind of cool, you could always play a different mode. I have never played on anything other than hardcore mode but I cant see a huge dif in the way it was in s2. Unless I am just used to it. And the lack of ollie height is huge, something that is a foot to 2 feet in height is extremely difficult to not over pop