I just scored a set of Aces for my newest setup, and I LOVE the things. I was on the east coast, at a skatepark a buddy runs, and one of the local pro's and some Ishod Wier guy (HELL of a nice guy, and yeah, I know he's one of the best am's out) got into a convo about 'em. Local guy said they're based on the 80's era Indy design. I love 'em. They're stable enough that I ride 'em looser than the indy's I came off of.