Filming

[BannerBoy360]

ya i cant add much to what wiltzuh said there but as for the 45 second clip when you only want seven, deacon is right about the bumpers, but what i do to make filming easier and to give me a
a longer timeline without as many seconds in it is just before you film a trick go into the object dropper or if you are in a CAP then go to the park editor. this means that when you do the trick straight after if you can, you only have to move the bumpers a small bit and you are able to put less key markers down on a clip. its explained properly at the start of this guys vid but dont do the whole free play then back to carreer cus that doesnt work, go into object dropper.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EaSkate3.../1/PRKPBGpGHTQ

[knexzor]

this might help

[Wiltzuh]

if you are in a CAP then go to the park editor. this means that when you do the trick straight after if you can, you only have to move the bumpers a small bit and you are able to put less key markers down on a clip. its explained properly at the start of this guys vid but dont do the whole free play then back to carreer cus that doesnt work, go into object dropper.

Yeah. Another way to get smaller timeline in CREATED PARKS, is filling both meters: Terrain meter and Props meter. Then it gives you maximally 36second timelines. In my opinion 30 seconds is optimum lenght for timeline.
So...if you find out that your timeline is going over 40 seconds in CAP, check out if your terrain meter and/or props meter isn't full and fill them =)

[xRiverKing]

dogtown's tutorial is pretty good, the only thing i wouldn't do is set so many keyframes, it tends to get shaky that way, especially for inexperienced filmers.
for long lens, just find out what looks best, don't always use the same mm, use your environment, zoom in/out, pan to or away from the skater, i think that's what the guys from ptc do alot, at least jerr, and so do i anyways.

I noticed that sometimes using less keyframes is best, thanks bro! By the way, I love your filming too

ya i cant add much to what wiltzuh said there but as for the 45 second clip when you only want seven, deacon is right about the bumpers, but what i do to make filming easier and to give me a longer timeline without as many seconds in it is just before you film a trick go into the object dropper or if you are in a CAP then go to the park editor. this means that when you do the trick straight after if you can, you only have to move the bumpers a small bit and you are able to put less key markers down on a clip. its explained properly at the start of this guys vid but dont do the whole free play then back to carreer cus that doesnt work, go into object dropper.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EaSkate3.../1/PRKPBGpGHTQ

Finally what I wanted!! The object dropper works awesome thanks man!! (yes guys, I know there is a scrub/bumper :/ haha)

And also Roll in's and -out's. They make your footage look better. Personally when filming line or fisheye footage i stop my camera always when your skater lands the trick. I got that from my real life filming and i think filming in skate is much easier if you have filmed skating in real life =)

The roll out's can annoy me because they pan back, but its an easy fix. I love doing both, but I tend to find myself wanted to do them for every line haha. Thanks man

this might help

This vid helped a lot, thanks, didn't know that he had that account. Great in depth vid here for people wanted a tutorial.



Thanks everyone else! I find the long lens to be quite fun and easy. My biggest challenges are looking for good, clean, unique angles and getting fluent line-filming down. I must say after tinkering around with all of this I feel a lot better about it all.



I got a line, and filmed the line and a long lens after. Tell me what yall think.

Fisheye line
Long lens follow up (pan back at the end would be edited out ofc)

The help was greatly appreciated!

[Boxerman08]

Just noticed this thread and thought I could maybe help and contribute to it a little, but it seems that everyone has covered what I was thinking of saying haha
But what I can do, since no one has given you tips for your 2 clips at the end, I'll give it a go and tell you what I think.

For the Fisheye line:
You have the right idea for fisheye filming, but maybe try to bring the camera a little closer to the ground/skater's board and feet, but still trying to show the entire skater if you can, while trying to keep the filming as smooth as possible. Try to imitate real life filming, at least that's what I do lol (ie. filming close, either right next to the skater, behind or in front, and use a combination of filming "positions", if you want, when filming a line). For the beginning of the clip, try to leave maybe 1 or 2 seconds before the first trick so the transition between clips will be smoother. Once the line is done, try not to pan back it too much, although in your clip it was alright, but maybe try to keep the skater's roll-away a little longer as well, because in your clip, when your skater lands, you almost go immediately towards the pole.

For the Long lens follow up clip:
Nothing to say here, because personally I thought it was perfect.

My intention isn't to bash your filming or anything, just trying to give you tips on what I personally think looks good, but everyone has different opinions. If you want, I can TRY to get clips of what I do, how I film my stuff, etc... But a lot has to do with experimenting. My filming has changed drastically from when I started to now lol I used to film fisheye lines in like 13 mm, and now I'm always using 18mm.

But it all boils down to what you like and how you like to film! Have fun experimenting dude!

[xRiverKing]

Boxer my man thank you for this, I need criticism.

I agree 100% on my fisheye. It needs work, and I feel I have gotten better since this post. I hate the way I started it, and the pan to the post was terribad haha. I like 15 mm myself, but I am now using anywhere from 12 - 20 mm. Sometimes I find it hard to keep things fresh, like angles and positions and whatnot.

I find long lens pretty simple, and really fun. I am not sure how I feel on this one, it was decent enough for a beginner I guess. Thanks for the compliment!

I will prob ask you for some guidance later when my schedule eases up. Haha

[Boxerman08]

Haha no problem, glad you liked the criticism, you film how you want to film though. But you get better at it after lots of trial and error, and from other people's tips as well.

Honestly, my filming improved a lot because of VirtualParadise. A while back, I tried to get on Conspiracy, and he sent me this huge message on stuff I should try to improve/focus on, from the tricks to the filming. Because of this, I've more or less changed how I play and film, but I like my stuff more than I did initially. It's from everyone's criticism that you'll get better at filming. Sure it's always good to get comments like "really sick" but it's also good to get comments like "that was garbage", but only if they back up their negative comment and not be a troll haha

I actually find lines are easier to film, partially because I find that filming for lines is more or less straight forward while for long lines, you have to find a nice looking angle, and half the time I try I can't really find an amazing angle for the trick. But again, probably trial and error, I should try to film more long lens I guess and experiment with it haha.

Whenever your schedule loosens up, I'll be glad to help out if I can dude!

[xRiverKing]

VP is one of the best at this game in all ways, no question. Its cool that he gave you some insight.. sounds good we can tinker around sometime.