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    usa with your president is behind the war on terror, this makes him responsible

    random link to give you some numbers
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...or-415397.html

    you still feel the lives of 3000 americans are more worth?
    sidenote, over 4000 us soldiers are among those deaths you wanna revenge the other 3000 with. how you can feel pride and justice is beyond me.

    and the link is from 2006. numbers are staggering.

    more recent calculations here:
    http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bohemian View Post
    usa with your president is behind the war on terror, this makes him responsible

    random link to give you some numbers
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...or-415397.html

    you still feel the lives of 3000 americans are more worth?
    sidenote, over 4000 us soldiers are among those deaths you wanna revenge the other 3000 with. how you can feel pride and justice is beyond me.

    and the link is from 2006. numbers are staggering.

    The Current US President didn't start the war and in fact, has very little to do with the actual day to day missions that have happened during the war. As opposed to Bin Laden, who had a hand in directly crafting 9/11 as well as issuing the direct order to execute that plan as well as other attacks.

    You say that the US President should be held responsible for US, Enemy, and Civilian lives lost during a time of war, correct? So what then should the President (Bush) have done instead of waging war? What could be done to give justice to the victims of Bin Laden's many terrorist actions? What keeps Bin Ladin from attacking again?

    What about other Anti-American forces? If Bin Laden gets off with a pass, what's to keep someone like.. say Kim Jong-il from attacking South Korea and the US, re-igniting that war?

    What, in your opinion, was the right decision to make?
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    i never said i only referred to only the current president or government.

    as for the right decision, id say not allowing/orchestrating an false flag opperation such as 911 to justify agressive entry into other countries for monitary gain would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohemian View Post
    i never said i only referred to only the current president or government.

    as for the right decision, id say not allowing/orchestrating an false flag opperation such as 911 to justify agressive entry into other countries for monitary gain would be better.
    Well you said "your own president...should be treated the same way," which is singular. So who should be treated the same way? Bush? Obama? or Clinton (since he was the one who actually issued the arrest orders for Bin Laden in response to his embassy bombing)?

    Did the US allow or orchestrate? Or are you not sure? Don't get me wrong.. I have my own beliefs about the whole situation that don't actually vary very far from what you seem to be insinuating here... but at the end of the day there's not a whole lot of facts behind those theories.

    Moreover you're quick to judge. It's very easy to sit in the back of the class and poke fun at the kids with the wrong answers.. but who are you to poke fun when you don't have the answers either? You're not even certain that the answer was wrong to begin with.. you just think it was, with no evidence supporting that train of thought.

    At the end of the day, someone has to make the hard decisions and I'd much rather have someone up there making the wrong decisions than someone who can't venture to make a decision at all.

    Bin Laden most definitely commited many heinous crimes. He most definitely deserved to be punished for those crimes. That's what is being celebrated.
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    look, i dont have the answers. but there sure are enough unanswered questions regarding the events leading up to this. and if you think im the only one asking the same thing your very wrong.

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    lemme come plan to have some guys fly some 747's into your city, where your family and friends work and live and see how adamently you hunt me down. And i'll plant a couple bombs in your embassies just for good measure.

    But no, really, you're right. We should all just take terrorist attacks like men and tell our people "I'm sorry your father/mother/husband/daughter jumped from the 52nd floor of the world trade center because they would rather die hitting the concrete at terminal velocity than be burned to death by hundreds of gallons of jet fuel. But nah, we can't go get those guys, cuz that would be mean."
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    ^^watchu talkin bout willis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roccityroller View Post
    lemme come plan to have some guys fly some 747's into your city, where your family and friends work and live and see how adamently you hunt me down. And i'll plant a couple bombs in your embassies just for good measure.

    But no, really, you're right. We should all just take terrorist attacks like men and tell our people "I'm sorry your father/mother/husband/daughter jumped from the 52nd floor of the world trade center because they would rather die hitting the concrete at terminal velocity than be burned to death by hundreds of gallons of jet fuel. But nah, we can't go get those guys, cuz that would be mean."
    I suck at politics. I hate everything about it. I also suck at arguements...

    but I see the point here. Those people deserved justice. That's not the way to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roccityroller View Post
    lemme come plan to have some guys fly some 747's into your city, where your family and friends work and live and see how adamently you hunt me down. And i'll plant a couple bombs in your embassies just for good measure.

    But no, really, you're right. We should all just take terrorist attacks like men and tell our people "I'm sorry your father/mother/husband/daughter jumped from the 52nd floor of the world trade center because they would rather die hitting the concrete at terminal velocity than be burned to death by hundreds of gallons of jet fuel. But nah, we can't go get those guys, cuz that would be mean."
    death sentence fuck yeah !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohemian View Post
    usa with your president is behind the war on terror, this makes him responsible

    random link to give you some numbers
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...or-415397.html

    you still feel the lives of 3000 americans are more worth?
    sidenote, over 4000 us soldiers are among those deaths you wanna revenge the other 3000 with. how you can feel pride and justice is beyond me.

    and the link is from 2006. numbers are staggering.

    more recent calculations here:
    http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html
    The problem with these numbers are that a large portion of these deaths are caused by insurgent and local terrorist retaliation against the U.S. presence in Iraq. I don't think it's fair to attribute the deaths entirely to the U.S. military. It would be ignoring the fact that a lot of deaths are caused by people who are threatened by a democratic Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohemian View Post
    usa with your president is behind the war on terror, this makes him responsible

    random link to give you some numbers
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...or-415397.html

    you still feel the lives of 3000 americans are more worth?
    sidenote, over 4000 us soldiers are among those deaths you wanna revenge the other 3000 with. how you can feel pride and justice is beyond me.

    and the link is from 2006. numbers are staggering.

    more recent calculations here:
    http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html
    The problem with these numbers are that a large portion of these deaths are caused by insurgent and local terrorist retaliation against the U.S. presence in Iraq. I don't think it's fair to attribute the deaths entirely to the U.S. military. It would be ignoring the fact that a lot of deaths are caused by people who are threatened by a democratic Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacepoet View Post
    The problem with these numbers are that a large portion of these deaths are caused by insurgent and local terrorist retaliation against the U.S. presence in Iraq. I don't think it's fair to attribute the deaths entirely to the U.S. military. It would be ignoring the fact that a lot of deaths are caused by people who are threatened by a democratic Iraq.
    if your 4000 troopers had not been there, they would still be alive.

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