Where did the skate series go completely wrong?

[heshfield]

I hate s3 too. Mack is dead-on.

I think, if you love skateboarding (in the modern, current sense) then youre disappointed in the direction the series went--thats why the community went to shit and continues to die.
The game is made for gamers...not skateboarders. And why? ..because that was EA's way of increasing sales--impressing real skaterborders and giving them a game they would love was furthest from their minds.

What made OG great was that it was made by skateboarders for skateboarders.
My speculation is that, as the series went on, less and less of each development team actually knew about skateboarding, and they had no clue that what they were making was complete crap. Who in their right mind would try to pass off these shitty animations and ugly-ass character designs?

[MarcoPoloUSN]

The game is made for gamers...not skateboarders.

period. to the skateboader/ skateboarding fan...

the game thats most relevant to skateboarding wins. OG was about simulation. Skate 3 was about scoring points.

[knexzor]

Me and Jack talked about this just the other day... I agree with most people in this thread.

The game is made for gamers...not skateboarders. And why? ..because that was EA's way of increasing sales--impressing real skaterborders and giving them a game they would love was furthest from their minds.

That (in bold) seems to have been nothing but a terrible business decision. Have a look at the Berrics, Street League, Dew Tour, X-Games. Concrete parks popping up everywhere like pimples on prepubescent boys. Skateboarding in commercials etc. Skateboarding is huge right now and it keeps getting bigger.

My speculation is that, as the series went on, less and less of each development team actually knew about skateboarding, and they had no clue that what they were making was complete crap. Who in their right mind would try to pass off these shitty animations and ugly-ass character designs?

I might be wrong; but, this decay so to speak could perhaps be traced all the way back to Blackwood leaving?

[Antwan]

Wether or not you comprehend it im not sure but you dont hate what skate 3 is or you wouldnt play it you hate what skate 3 isnt I skate and like all three so im done posting here you know where to find me.. If you dont like something and keep doing it it is a bit obscure its silly.. This is silly. A real skater adapts.. But beside the point keep filming in a game you hate.

[knexzor]

Wether or not you comprehend it im not sure but you dont hate what skate 3 is or you wouldnt play it you hate what skate 3 isnt I skate and like all three so im done posting here you know where to find me.. If you dont like something and keep doing it it is a bit obscure its silly.. This is silly. A real skater adapts.. But beside the point keep filming in a game you hate.

That is a bit contradictory. You said it yourself: a real skater adapts.
I'm only talking for myself but I hate the game only in comparison to its prequels. If skate 3 was the only skate game we had we'd all be thrilled; however, the disdain arises from how bad it actually is compared to what it should have been.

[emericaridr11]

If you dont like something and keep doing it it is a bit obscure its silly.

thank you!

[Permy]

Wether or not you comprehend it im not sure but you dont hate what skate 3 is or you wouldnt play it you hate what skate 3 isnt I skate and like all three so im done posting here you know where to find me.. If you dont like something and keep doing it it is a bit obscure its silly.. This is silly. A real skater adapts.. But beside the point keep filming in a game you hate.

I don't think you understand
i love being mad

[replicant]

Me and Jack talked about this just the other day... I agree with most people in this thread.
That (in bold) seems to have been nothing but a terrible business decision. Have a look at the Berrics, Street League, Dew Tour, X-Games. Concrete parks popping up everywhere like pimples on prepubescent boys. Skateboarding in commercials etc. Skateboarding is huge right now and it keeps getting bigger.

Skateboarding has definitely grown over the past decade and is doing well again after the 90's death/lull.
However, from a business decision is was a normal progression for the series.
They were trying to pull in the THPS crowd which is not skateboarders in general.
If you look at THPS for the most part it is a platformer with a skateboard motif (minor exceptions here and there).
Trying to get them to enjoy Skate meant allowing more leeway into arcade style gameplay.
This upset many of us, but having worked in the industry I understood the change.

I myself still enjoy certain aspects of OG Skate, Skate 2, and Skate 3.
Skate 3 is what I play the most simply because I have more options.
Long ago I did a write up on the EA forums of how I would like a remix game done.
To me OG should be the core, but 2 and 3 definitely have some nice features.
Play what you enjoy till you don't enjoy it anymore.
Hell, I still play Thrasher and that game is 12 years old almost.