i think replies are a good way to judge it, especially prefacing it by saying that's the criteria. saying it's ass kissing is kind of a cop out, because who would want to kiss the ass of a person or team someone doesn't like?

and since it's from 2010, that's really only counting skate 3 videos and mass amounts of hoodlum people just quit playing. there honestly hasn't been much of a hoodlum since skate 2.

i can only speak for psychonaut in this, but our whole hoodlum thing is and always has been an association because of friendships with people. to say every hoodlum team gets a free pass is pretty ridiculous. does anybody remember that fucking awful goonies video?

myself and demz especially have always operated on our own terms doing our own things, and i think we have earned the recognition we've received. we changed a lot of things.