I wasn't trying to explain it to as much as I was just sort of writing it out to explain my reasoning more clearly. I apologize if I came across like I was trying to teach you.

But yeah.. I agree if every overcrook is tweaked out before the front truck locks, then it follows reasoning to consider it a different trick. It's a lot harder to lock and hold like that. I just see most kids landing in nosegrind and pushing it over and calling it an overcrook. Like just by shifting the tail after the fact qualifies it. It's like when people try smith grinds but the wheels on the front truck aren't sunk lower than the rail. Yeah it's not really a 50 or a 5-0 but it's not really a smith either. For example, Malto, 9 times out of 10, does it right.

Meanwhile, kids like this dude, come at harder angle and push it over during the grind. When someone does that, it's just tweaking out a nosegrind.