Overcrooks on Handrails

[Hitmanx123]

It's not like there's a ton of threads popping and I like having these types of convo's. It's just a convo. Not a heated argument or anything like that.

i guess. just seems like a stair-case convo that will lead to almost no conclusion. getting into the nitty gritty of why skaters think certain ways is fun but tbh theres only so much you can say before it comes down to the "thats how you think and this is how i think, we are different" realization. but whatever gets your post count up :/

[Antwan]

So one side says an accidental overcrook down a handrail is a nosegrind
because you've never seen a straight nosegrind down a handrail you say an overcrook is a nosegrind.
Now I understand where This side is coming from..
But you can't really deny what is already there.. Frontside exists, Nosegrinds exist
Being dependent on if it has been done or not seems silly to me.

If the person is approaching any obstacle whatsoever
with their toes facing toward it in their regular stance
is it not technically frontside? So, Toes toward the hand rail.. Regular Stance. Frontside nosegrind?
If this is technically true you can't really say it doesn't exist, maybe it has not been done
but it still seems like a possible variation.

Mind you, I'm still learning but just showing interest and shedding some light on my perspective.

[knexzor]

So one side says an accidental overcrook down a handrail is a nosegrind
because you've never seen a straight nosegrind down a handrail you say an overcrook is a nosegrind.
Now I understand where This side is coming from..
But you can't really deny what is already there.. Frontside exists, Nosegrinds exist
Being dependent on if it has been done or not seems silly to me.

If the person is approaching any obstacle whatsoever
with their toes facing toward it in their regular stance
is it not technically frontside? So, Toes toward the hand rail.. Regular Stance. Frontside nosegrind?
If this is technically true you can't really say it doesn't exist, maybe it has not been done
but it still seems like a possible variation.

Mind you, I'm still learning but just showing interest and shedding some light on my perspective.

I think you got it backwards. Nobody in this thread denies fs nosegrinds; however, the debate is regarding whether fs overcrooks on rails are legit, of if they are in fact just fs nosegrinds.

[jest118]

i guess. just seems like a stair-case convo that will lead to almost no conclusion. getting into the nitty gritty of why skaters think certain ways is fun but tbh theres only so much you can say before it comes down to the "thats how you think and this is how i think, we are different" realization. but whatever gets your post count up :/

Yeah I get what you mean. I just saw that in this thread there was really only one viewpoint being expressed so I took up the mantle of the other side for conversations sake. I also just moved to a town with like zero skate scene so I'm little starved for even the most pointless skate talk lol.

[Legba]

i guess. just seems like a stair-case convo that will lead to almost no conclusion. getting into the nitty gritty of why skaters think certain ways is fun but tbh theres only so much you can say before it comes down to the "thats how you think and this is how i think, we are different" realization. but whatever gets your post count up :/

I just wanted to really find out what this whole debate is based on. Until Moose started this thread, I had only heard of this issue once from some dude I met in Nor Cal. Other than that, people always count my fs overcrooks. So the latter part of this thread (with jest representing the opposing side) has actually been pretty informative.

I also just moved to a town with like zero skate scene

Ooooh, I know how that is! Lone Wolf-headphone sessions are all ya got. The worst is when there's no spots to speak of either, yikes! So glad I was able to move back to Brooklyn lol.

[jest118]

Ooooh, I know how that is! Lone Wolf-headphone sessions are all ya got. The worst is when there's no spots to speak of either, yikes! So glad I was able to move back to Brooklyn lol.

I don't even have those. Stay at home Dad to a 3 year old and a wife who's 6 months preggo. I get zero session time whatsoever. In my last town I could at least take the kid down to the local shop and bs with people and watch vids. No skate shop in this town though. There's a Ron Jon Surf Shop but it's a tourist shop. It's a cool little town, just doesn't satisfy me on the skate side of things.

[Legba]

I don't even have those. Stay at home Dad to a 3 year old and a wife who's 6 months preggo. I get zero session time whatsoever. In my last town I could at least take the kid down to the local shop and bs with people and watch vids. No skate shop in this town though. There's a Ron Jon Surf Shop but it's a tourist shop. It's a cool little town, just doesn't satisfy me on the skate side of things.

Really? Damn dude.... gotta love fakeskate in times like that! But its pretty awesome that you get to spend time with your kid like that tho.

[Fecal Face]

People who play devil's advocate are stupid.

Overcrooks are a name, and they do exist, just like a fucking kickflip isn't a tweaked-out ollie.



THIS IS MY NIGGA. I FILMED THIS.

:15 is a real overcrook.

OVERCROOK.

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It's /thread and you cant /thread your own post


and how is that different from every other fs nosegrind/"fs overcrook" on a handrail?

[EmmitBrown]

a lot of restaurants overcrook gnocchi...

[jest118]

Really? Damn dude.... gotta love fakeskate in times like that! But its pretty awesome that you get to spend time with your kid like that tho.

Oh definitely man. It's really a blessing.

Also, that vid of Chad Fernandez is a pretty good example. That's how he's always done his fs nosegrinds and that's what it calls them as well to my knowledge. He's an older generation though back from before people started using the term overcrooks.

[Slamooh]

we're talking about physics. I don't get why we ask skaters' opininon on such a serious subject

[bohemian]

what? a whole thread on the problems of skatelingo? and i missed it? daaaaaiaiimmn!

cant be bothered to read it but im pretty sure your all wrong. ha.


challenge: rewrite this in "todays" terminology; chineese ollie antiflip

first one to get it right have to state its origin and demise