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    Never Been Done in Skate

    *Tricks that you consider impossible
    *Tricks that you could never get clean enough
    *Combinations that are too technical for yo thumbs

    I miss anything?

    So here's the thought..
    I've done so many stupid things I never thought would be possible with the skate games.
    Share your NBDs and if someone thinks they can do it they can post a video response.

    Just something else to do if people are down.
    If it pops off someone could make a collab of the clips.
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    Popless hardflips in the regs mini out of grinds in OG

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    Those do sound difficult if not impossible pawn.
    I know you can do them off of ledges so my thought is to somehow air out of the stall.
    It may just throw you into transition, I've never tried.
    I dread the camera in OG or I would attempt more.
    May have a go when my laptop is finally smooth sailing. Making progress.

    *So I landed a 360 revert beanplant to backside nose slide.
    I challenge someone to do it with a boneless.
    You get unintended wacky results like semi-bert slides and fakie plants on skate 2.
    *I Still can't do nollie varial kickflip 270 nose slides.

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    This trick. Tried it off and on a couple years. Countless hours. Grind the ledge then pop onto the balcony and ride it down. Never been Been able to get it. I prick myself on doing tricks I find hard this one is my white whale.


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    Moma that's insane haha sick..
    I remember messing with those ledges, they alone were tough skating.
    Here's one to boggle you..
    I believe the ledge is ungrindable too. Two-fer?

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    never understood how the hell kanen and blast did feeble kickflip popovers in s2.. boggles my mind.. Right now I can't think of any tricks I've never seen anyone do.. yeah maybe like tricks that are possible, but not in a realistic way, that's what I often bump into..

    Quote Originally Posted by momadaddy View Post
    This trick. Tried it off and on a couple years. Countless hours. Grind the ledge then pop onto the balcony and ride it down. Never been Been able to get it. I prick myself on doing tricks I find hard this one is my white whale.

    I tried this trick too when you first posted this on here, but to me it seemed that you just can't get on that ledge because there's an invisible wall there.. Even if I popped high enough so that my wheels got over the ledge, it still bumped me back
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    I think the s3 darkness is one of the trickiest spots in the game.
    I managed to get a tweaked kickflip for my banger in a full part about 4 years ago..
    link: https://youtu.be/EqUMppubrzI?t=3m29s

    Haven't really returned to get anything better. The suction on the surrounding walls + skinny landing gives you a fucking run for your money.
    One day I'll get a stylish fakie tre... One day.

    Edit2: moma that spot is nasty. This discussion is bringing me back to those old pawn/OATS trick challenges. I'm tryin' to get all of these.
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    mother fucking wallrides out of grinds....

    holy shit..
    theres like a good 40 spots where i m doing some wacky shit and all of a sudden.....i wall ride down out of the grind...

    i dont mean some angled wall either...
    i mean straight down....
    wallride..
    wacky pop off to the ground...


    there is no god damn way to figure out what is broken in the engine to replicate it over and over....

    worst part...
    im stuck on something i want..
    then i wallride randomly..
    then i spend the next 10 hours through how ever many sessions to try and wallride again...

    it just doesnt fucking happen...



    skate 1 - 3....
    so many tricks....

    skate 3 and wallrides out of grinds in the same sentence gets me heated....

    the one fucking thing i cant do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demzilla View Post
    mother fucking wallrides out of grinds....

    holy shit..
    theres like a good 40 spots where i m doing some wacky shit and all of a sudden.....i wall ride down out of the grind...

    i dont mean some angled wall either...
    i mean straight down....
    wallride..
    wacky pop off to the ground...


    there is no god damn way to figure out what is broken in the engine to replicate it over and over....

    worst part...
    im stuck on something i want..
    then i wallride randomly..
    then i spend the next 10 hours through how ever many sessions to try and wallride again...

    it just doesnt fucking happen...



    skate 1 - 3....
    so many tricks....

    skate 3 and wallrides out of grinds in the same sentence gets me heated....

    the one fucking thing i cant do...
    this

    the only way ive everrrr been able to wallride or wallie out of a grind has been switching difficulty to normal but you can't do that mid-line which is a pain in the ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK8ERatWAR View Post
    never understood how the hell kanen and blast did feeble kickflip popovers in s2
    This.

    I would try those over and over again, and I just don't know how. For a seemingly basic trick, it was pretty hard to get one in a line. I don't think I've ever done it cleanly to be honest. However, it's easy for some people.

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    Demz!
    Haha.. I remember reading about you pondering that variation way back.
    Freakin a..
    It makes me think that certain spots are the only solution.
    Like in development certain ledges are really seen as walls.
    Strictly theory, as I've only gotten legitimate wallie animations in two spots in three cities.
    It sounds right to me though, HUGE cities. Some spots created differently.
    I had a wallride out happen recently funny enough.
    Damned because I don't remember where.
    I was just trying to fall out of it smooth with B.

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    couple day ago i was trying fs tail fs flip noseslide on a short lenght ledge, probably one of the master around here would be able to do it, but for myself i wasnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeksulChokolate View Post
    I think the s3 darkness is one of the trickiest spots in the game.
    I managed to get a tweaked kickflip for my banger in a full part about 4 years ago..
    link: https://youtu.be/EqUMppubrzI?t=3m29s

    Haven't really returned to get anything better. The suction on the surrounding walls + skinny landing gives you a fucking run for your money.
    One day I'll get a stylish fakie tre... One day.

    Edit2: moma that spot is nasty. This discussion is bringing me back to those old pawn/OATS trick challenges. I'm tryin' to get all of these.
    https://youtu.be/6MwcnOSPeF8?t=211 something diffferent i did ive wanted to try something else havent tried yet!!
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    I've got another one..
    It has eluded me so long I almost forgot entirely.
    I did it once in a spot battle. Never been able to replicate it since.
    As far as I know it's only possible in skate 2. I did it in a pool, the poolside kill spot specifically.
    No comply to handplant.
    You have to air up without triggering a stall or something. Ive wanted it in a video part ever since.
    Might be the only one that got away.

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    damn seksul, who made that darkness for s3? i wanna hit it up. i got a fakie tre on the darkness in s2 but that one looks mo' narrow

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    thats in san van

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    Quote Originally Posted by momadaddy View Post
    thats in san van
    the s2 one is, but seksul said s3 darkness. is it in carveton or is it a CAP? i downloaded a remake of it a while ago but i don't think it was as narrow as the one in seksul's vid


    fakie tre is at 1:00, but that's at the s2 darkness

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    its in the san van party pack

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    ohhhhh. i totally forgot about that. thanks, moma!

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    Yeah E the s3 darkness is a blast.. I'd play the shit out of a CAP darkness tho...

    Prowlin thats dope as hell man. Never thought of hitting that side ledge.
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    Fingerflip Airwalk to Bodyjar... was always just out of grasp despite trying it countless times
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoppySquidJr View Post
    Fingerflip Airwalk to Bodyjar... was always just out of grasp despite trying it countless times
    In S1, the trick I wanted to pull off, but could never do cleanly, was a Bodyjar on the railing on top of the Qtr pipe in the XGames street park

    same spot as at 3:58 in my S1 throwaway vid
    https://youtu.be/pA-cZbBCcSU?t=238


    Numerous times I'd stick the bodyjar & then miss the ramp coming back down.
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    Poppy, that sounds very difficult.
    Finger flips and airwalks both can take impeccable timing when landing in a stall or grind.
    I wouldn't doubt it being doable, just very hard. Would love to see you revisit that one day.

    Crz, that ledge looks super fun.

    I think we could all use some closure with these NBDs.
    If it is a combination within the mechanics it's more than likely within grasp.
    Recommend everyone tries their tricks for a while once more before throwing in the towel.
    I'm going to anyway.
    I've noticed with a clear head you can get more attempts in and even incorporate small things you didn't think of before making it more likely to become a make.

    As for tricks that you couldn't get looking realistic, post those too if you like.
    I was told you could never do realistic Wallies in skate and I've found a few setups that have allowed me to.

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    https://youtu.be/9zHoTNWPxKE

    0:58

    Wallride out of grind

    I can't claim that I ever did one again. Can't remember how I figured it out. Nobody even noticed, so I thought nobody cared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i am a snail View Post
    this

    the only way ive everrrr been able to wallride or wallie out of a grind has been switching difficulty to normal but you can't do that mid-line which is a pain in the ass
    You guys talking about something like this @ 3:33? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG1ETLM8w4U
    If so, the trick is in the shoulders and timing when you tap to fall out of the grind.
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    See, those are tall ledges. I totally get how that's possible.
    Pretty sure the variation in question is on a ledge that isn't as tall.
    I had it happen again today haha.
    seems you get some funky results if you can trick the game into starting one trick and connecting another.
    If you can get the game to think you're attempting a wall ride and land in a grind it puts you down the wall without the need to disconnect manually. No timing really needed.

    This holds true for legit Wallies too.
    If you go to the Kube tower in skate 3 and find the shaded area that is a manny pad next to a wall.
    Halfway between a wall ride and landing into a nose or tailslide there is a brand new animation to manipulate.

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    I made an all downhill snowboard type CAP with ledges down either side. We messed around trying to grind the whole thing (length of the indoor arena CAP) and found out that if you got into a willy grind (crooks with back trucks under ledge) then when he finished grinding he would go to wallride every time. Using that method we could do 5 or so willy to wallride combos all the way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    https://youtu.be/9zHoTNWPxKE

    0:58

    Wallride out of grind

    I can't claim that I ever did one again. Can't remember how I figured it out. Nobody even noticed, so I thought nobody cared.
    ditto, yougot that in the bag way before me though. solid trick hard as fuck.

    https://youtu.be/W73ubENJf14?t=133


    this thread is funny. cause so much shit has been done....do we know what hasn't already been done ya know?


    at a realistic stand point, only thing I can imagine that hasn't been done is some technical lines.

    little things like pawns popless hardflip in regs(OG) is a prime example of the games mechanics going against you. those are the diamonds in the rough. seriously southie breaks games, he can probably myth bust hahaha./
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    i remember both of those wallride outs very well...
    documentation i studied...

    i feel like it falls under 2 categories.
    half wall ride grind....the character is sideways pretty much the whole time...
    spazz out the arms on taller than your character walls....

    for me....
    sideways looks a little funny...
    and adjusting the arms back one direction and back the other really quickly...doesnt look that realistic...

    maybe i havnt found the right grind position to make it look good?
    who knows...

    but like antwan said...
    some of the taller stuff will suck you in...


    it like wallrides currently..
    slap the wall and keep your speed or wallride up correctly and slow down completely..
    give and take i guess...



    also just realized this topic will live again after p:s comes out...
    we will have to figure out how to do all of this shit all over again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demzilla View Post

    also just realized this topic will live again after p:s comes out...
    we will have to figure out how to do all of this shit all over again...
    Which is awesome, I really look forward to watching people finding a way to mess with the physics creating things people never thought were possible..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwan View Post
    Poppy, that sounds very difficult.
    Finger flips and airwalks both can take impeccable timing when landing in a stall or grind.
    I wouldn't doubt it being doable, just very hard. Would love to see you revisit that one day.
    Yea, the problem is getting the kind of air you need for that while still hitting the ledge. I've done it a couple times but landed everywhere but the tail. Fingerflip Bodyjars and Airwalk Bodyjars are both something I can do with consistency, it's just getting them both requires a ton of air relatively, so I'd probably have to find the perfect ramp to make it really possible (or even make one).

    Even if I did revisit it though (My skate 3 disc is dead), I have no way of filming anymore.
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    poppy/luft i'll give it a shot
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    Saunders The thread is inspired by chris cole's NBD Contest.
    Not to say we are the inventors but things we haven't done or want to see done.
    The more we rely on things not naturally built into the game the less likely it is to have been done.
    You're right though, we don't "know."
    I guess I don't picture the average gamer picking up the skate series and doing what we do.
    Getting extremely technical or creating entirely new things through its flaws just for the sake of videos and hyping eachother since you mention it.

    Poppy, yeah. I figured as much.. I still haven't figured out finger flip animations.
    My assumption was that there is a brief moment where the trick is not completely finished in the code but fully flipped in its animation. Then I think about Pawnluv doing flatground finger flip pivots and get lost in translation haha.

    As for your disc..
    I've tried ridiculous things to get discs working again over the years.
    The most successful method to date is simply wiping the disc down with a 100% cotton t-shirt.
    No joke. My skate 3 disc is still ruined but on a good day after I've wiped it back and forth it will let me install the game and problems solved.

    Demz, pretty close to Wallies.
    Details to get right seem minor in the grand scheme.
    I just have too many things I end up doing when I play so never really focused at it.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dtjwr_6OBtY
    Wallrides out are anyone's guess until someone succeeds without an actual wall below.
    It does make you think though, which is never bad.
    One theory should be right.
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    no-comply (teaser only)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohemian View Post
    no-comply (teaser only)
    what
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    Quote Originally Posted by noobtard07 View Post
    what
    ray barbee no comply from the teaser. I think is what bohemian meant.

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    finger-flip out of blunt or tail..


    But i consider this near impossible until i figured out how to do them.
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    antwan...
    no idea what that was hahah...

    goon...

    im assuming you were trying to tre noseblunt to dub grind a crook?
    that way frames are missing and his body jumps because the frames are missing it looks like you started to hit the grab buttons as soon as the game reads your on a surface again.

    i suck at doubles..
    but ive tweaked that a few times....
    i normally get the glitch lock legs every time though...


    i think the game only reads the finger flip after you grab the board while in the air...
    i dont think you can hold the board while sliding and then flip out using your fingers...
    i remember that as a pawn challenge and all of us online trying...
    could be wrong though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demzilla View Post
    mother fucking wallrides out of grinds....

    holy shit..
    theres like a good 40 spots where i m doing some wacky shit and all of a sudden.....i wall ride down out of the grind...

    i dont mean some angled wall either...
    i mean straight down....
    wallride..
    wacky pop off to the ground...


    there is no god damn way to figure out what is broken in the engine to replicate it over and over....

    worst part...
    im stuck on something i want..
    then i wallride randomly..
    then i spend the next 10 hours through how ever many sessions to try and wallride again...

    it just doesnt fucking happen...



    skate 1 - 3....
    so many tricks....

    skate 3 and wallrides out of grinds in the same sentence gets me heated....

    the one fucking thing i cant do...
    hi made this last year its not that hard when you go for UG´s


    trick was used in Thumbstick Shaolin Vol.3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64O6RhP-_yk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demzilla View Post
    antwan...
    no idea what that was hahah...

    goon...

    im assuming you were trying to tre noseblunt to dub grind a crook?
    that way frames are missing and his body jumps because the frames are missing it looks like you started to hit the grab buttons as soon as the game reads your on a surface again.

    i suck at doubles..
    but ive tweaked that a few times....
    i normally get the glitch lock legs every time though...


    i think the game only reads the finger flip after you grab the board while in the air...
    i dont think you can hold the board while sliding and then flip out using your fingers...
    i remember that as a pawn challenge and all of us online trying...
    could be wrong though...
    Kinda.. But no triggers are involved in doing them like that, just rotations of both sticks.
    You get stiff legs when you use triggers, as it is part of the 3rd animation if you like when you do double grinds.

    As for slides, you can grab the nose in a tail as you know but if you keep hold you can't Ollie :/
    I'm sure you can glitch it some how. I've never looked into/spent time on doing/trying it since s2 when me and slamooh was trying get them.

    BTW... HCH, Win .. UG version
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