HELP! - Intel vs AMD (pc build)

[emericaridr11]

Right on daag, yes the one I was looking at was a bit pricey but it had a gtx 970

I have decided to go ryzen built by myself after talking to Saunders all night on facebook..... your the fucking man Saunders!

My build comes out to $950

Here is what i had mapped out, but I'm getting a few things cheaper on craigslist I just kept them in the list for budgeting purposes.. instead of the gpu I'll be buying a slightly used gtx 970 ($180), and instead of the mobo and cooler I'll get a new one from Craigslist for $80 (for both tomahawk mobo and evo 212 cooler combo), and there is some cheap $25 Hag 912 cases on Craigslist too... basically anything that saves me money

However I do kind of want to get the ryzen 7 1700x version cause im not sure I feel 100% safe overclocking yet and stock 3.4ghz seems mad chill for me, so that upped my build $80 (but i also understand that if overclocked the 1700 vs the 1700x is basically the same (minus power consumption)

Here is what I'm looking at, and trying to subsitute anything for Craigslist parts.... looks like by the end I'll spend $900 give or take (a bit more cause i need a sata drive too and possibly a sound card and wireless card)

Gonna have to borrow a hundo from pops Hahahahahahahaha

List:

[DaaGooN]

Looking good. you know that the new AMD RX580 is out is a couple of days.. Some saying 18th April so Tuesday.. Retailing around $220/250 and is = to a 980Ti.
So basically a GTX 1060 6gb for a lot less.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-58...official-leak/

970 is good, but that 3.5GB might limit you.. Nvidia had to refund people because they lied about it having 4GB hehe
Ask Saunders about it, as i know he owns a 970. Good card though and will meet your needs im sure.

Also don't bother with the X. all R7's are the same bin. X basically means WE (AMD) overcloked it a little bit for you. hence the higher Stock. lol

Save yourself some money and get the 1700 & check out some reviews about 1700 vs 1700X
you will see it don't mean nothing once you OC it to 4Ghz equal to a 1800X.

But if it was me i would be looking at a M.2 PCIe NVMe instead of the normal SSD and a Rx580.
$10 or 20 more in prices. But worth it

What ever you get, it's better than you have now huh.
so really it's a win win.

[emericaridr11]

Super slick daag cheers! I'll go with the 1700, makes sense the 1700x isn't really stock 3.4 but more so factory overclocked.(which could explain the higher power comsumption?)

I truly know nothing about ssd action, she'd some light or have a suggested product (250gb)

There is also a MSI R9 390 8gb gpu for $180 on craigslist, never opened or used... I assume that's a good card too? (8gb surely it screams)

[DaaGooN]

Don't bother with the 390... Rx480 is better and the new Rx580 is basically a Overclocked RX480 it turns out.
Amd tend to re-badge cards with tweaks ect.. but when the 580 comes out the price will go down on the 480 .. then you can grab it! by the end of this week.


you have a m.2 on that mobo, so why not make use of its crazy speed!
3GBs Read / 1.5GBs Write
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-M-2.../dp/B01M211K53

Vs normaly Sata3 SSD's limit of 512mb/512mb.

Tom does really good reviews.

[DaaGooN]

Here is his R7 1700 review.

[emericaridr11]

Sick sick sick, but having a 480 and m.2 puts me over budget.. not sure I am going to be able to do those (I don't even have $20 more than $850)

That's why I'm trying to get a few things used or new on Craigslist for cheaper (tons of 970s for $150) like a slightly used gpu that's better than the gtx 1050ti (Which seems to be one of the only decent ones in that price range)

BUT if I overclock the 1700 (Which seems like I have to for games) will a Cooler Master 212 evo even be enough? (assuming it even fits in my case)


Also: will any psu work with my build?
Like this Sentey 1000w Modular one? ($50)
Link to cl ad:https://denver.craigslist.org/sop/6083953774.html

[DaaGooN]

First of all. DO NOT cheap on the backbone of the build. get a good PSU. even if you have to give up on something else.
you would only need a 650watt anything above it is overkill. that build will pull about 3/400watt from the wall anyway.

Also remember you can pick up a SSD cheaper second hand.. that would save you money if you can get one.. i myself have only SSD's in my pc. 250GB for OS , and then 2x500GB for other stuff. all my HHD are in a 5bay external via usb3.

You can replace the GTX1060 with RX480 or 470 if you like. they will all do 1080/60 on high to max no problem.

the Hyper 212 is good budget cooler & may get you a little better in temp wise, but the stock cooler on the new ryzen is also good.
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700...hmarks-leaked/

Just note that with AMD ryzen they done something they are now trying to correct. they put a offset +20c on the temps. Hence why people think they re hitting 70/80c and really it's 20c lower. i think a lot of the mobo makers are now correcting it in bios updates.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...00x1700x1600x/

Put it this way. 16core @ 4Ghz @ 65c is Great on a stock cooler.

M.2 SSD & better Heatsink can be got down the road, if you ever need it.
Upgrades

This is what i would buy.. and it's just a lil over your own. would be a nice beauty machine.
Hope it helps.

[emericaridr11]

Im pm-ing you...... you got to check what i got going on