hardcore mode talk box...

[OsiRHIS]

See...I like this place for this reason...no one takes themselves too seriously here. Yay Fluckit!

On topic:
I want to approach HC like I approached the OG Skate demo...and take time to learn individual tricks. I remember spending hours the first couple of days the demo was out just learning how to do noseslides and tailslides consistently.

I want to have that same experience again...as well as develop my own sense of style and grace. HC opens the doors for that.

As to more recent comments, drama will always exist amongst the core of this game's community. Fortunately, all that drama is all over at the main EA forums. It's a breath of fresh air here.

[Jakeblueisballin]

HC is hyping me up so much.
Just imagine,
someone comes out with a part. It's UNREALISTIC. But done in HC? Do I give them hella props? Definitely.
I feel like no matter how YOU skate in HC, it's going to be gnarly as fuck.
I know I'm going to use the hell out of the new features,
Darkslides, underflips, perfectly combined animations.
My first Skate 3 demo solo will contain some realistic darkslides and maybe an underflip or two.
I just can't wait for S3.
It's going to replace MW2 for good

[darthmonkeyman]

Great discussion here.
I think its all down to personal preference with regards to hc/ non-hc. If someone puts out a great solo or part on normal im not gonna mind, actually im probably going to like their non-conformity. If hc doesnt match with their style well thats okay.
As for people pretending to skate hc... we'll let the kids table worry about that.

On a different note i think id like to see a pawn and skatevid gaps video on easy mode...

[BladderBoy]

I appreciate you guys keeping me engaged though 43 posts - that was very thoughtful and honest. Thanks.

It's HC for me, 99.9999% of the time*. Not because of the the way the tricks look, or for the bragging rights. I care more about the way the game plays. It will be more challenging, but more intuitive. THAT'S my reward. Bragging rights and smooth videos are the bonus. Can't wait.

*.0009% accounts for when I need to score 500,000 points on the XGames mega ramp to unlock the final CAP warehouse hidden on the other side. I'll fucking button mash my way in AND out of a triple backflip coffin on easy, no worries.

[xLuke]

I'll skate hc mode constantly, I don't put out parts or anything because I don't see the point in putting in loads of effort to get about 10 views... I play skate because I like it and if hc mode means that the game will give me a new challenge then I'm all up for it

[schnavolda]

I'll skate hc mode constantly, I don't put out parts or anything because I don't see the point in putting in loads of effort to get about 10 views... I play skate because I like it and if hc mode means that the game will give me a new challenge then I'm all up for it

if you play the game and do cool stuff why not just film it. the editing is the smallest part of a video.

[xLuke]

if you play the game and do cool stuff why not just film it. the editing is the smallest part of a video.

oh i do, i had loads of clips on my old hdd a while back, i just dont see the point in making a vid if nobody watches it. when ive got some time to spare, i might put something together

[tehwoot]

prob just starting on Hardcore and keeping it that way... but then again who the fuck knows. Skate 2 was to easy, lets hope HC is how they say.

[yellowsnow]

i think overall hardcore mode will make basic gameplay much more difficult, but i think it could make some things easier too.

for example, hurricanes, the only reason hurricanes take few a tries now is cause you have to fight the physics from locking the front truck down. If hardcore mode has less grind magnetism it will reward player accuracy and not force us to overcompensate to fight the physics. The trick might actually be easier in a way.

if this is true ^... i think everyone will play in hardcore mode all the time then.

[Dusky]

Hardcore mode really isn't as fun as I thought it would be. The no grind suction sucks ass. It's just to hard to do a decent grind now. I jumped in between two rails which were only like 2 feet apart from each other. Also, it's almost impossible now to do a fun line.

[schnavolda]

Also, it's almost impossible now to do a fun line.

a lot harder? yes.
impossible? no.

for me, hardcore is exactly what the series needed. so much more control over everything and it just feels right.

i mean what do people expect? the demo is out for like 30 hours at least and so many people are saying hc is too hard. ever heard of learning curve? think back to the og demo, it took weeks to learn everything. now everybody (who has not skated ungrindables a lot) needs to relearn grinds. and you can always switch back to easycore.

[yellowsnow]

i remember thinking that the physics on the OG demo were impossible.

A month from now when the full game comes out we'll all be a lot better.

[Dusky]

so much more control over everything

What do you mean by that? Over what do you have more control? The controls are exactly the same, only the outcome is different and therefore a lot harder.

[schnavolda]

What do you mean by that? Over what do you have more control? The controls are exactly the same, only the outcome is different and therefore a lot harder.

more control over ..

.. speed
.. approach
.. grinds (especially without rail magnetism)
.. not grinding (landing in manuals and not grinds or going up stuff when i want to)

sure, the control scheme is the same but what you can do with it isn't.

[AceMcCloud]

I personally like being able to do exactly what I want, when I want during a line. HC mode can make this rather difficult at times where it's tricky to just get onto a rail/ledge the right way. That can really put a damper on the rest of the line I've thought up, considering that one trick is so harsh. Also, when ya'll are filming lines and what not, it's easy to play Normal and just not pop as high and things of that nature. But you already knew thaat.

Oh and, http://skate.ea.com/gallery#searchTy...ME&itemId=9998

[okami16]

HC is everything i excpexted. Learning curve is exactly what i wanted it to be like.
we'll all master it eventually so dont write it off if you cant grind a ledge on your first try, and if you dont like it ... switch back to s2 mode... That simple.

what i do think is a bit harsh is the watermark. a touch humilliating, no?

[Amp Game]

Loving HC mode. Feels like sakting, also love that fact i can manny a bench with out the grind lock.

Also love the low pops off rails, hated throwing in a shuv off a rail that popped 2 foot above it.

I think the new videos will look good, especially when someone has a run of a few tricks and getting to the next part of there line throws in a Tre or 360 HF on the flat you know thats squeeky bum time and there sakting with some confidence.

Still finding those tres etc hard to pull on the flat, have to pop them so fact and accurate ! Love it !

Agree though with the demo area too many wide open spaces.

[ske]

Not 100% impressed to be honest...

++ Low pop out of grinds and manuals
++ No grind suction from the top of ledges

-- Can't do low 3s on flat anymore
-- Still easy to do ridiculous tricks out of grinds and manuals
-- Fully popped tricks are still way too high

[schnavolda]

i so hope for a clearly visible and easy to spot difference between hardcore and normal footage.

at this point, i don't have the eye yet to see a difference, because normal can look a lot like hardcore if done right, but it still is a lot easier to pull everything off. especially in lines, you can see if grinds are all too perfect locked and there is no loss of speed at all even without pushing, especially after grinds.

i've seen footage already where i was like "this is no way hc", although people said it was.

[robley]

this is fun and i like it. i'm a little bored of the mostly empty area. i just have to get used to the object dropper, because i rarely used the movables in 2. i'm lazy what do you expect. i'm a little bummed on the lack of advanced cams and CAS but i completely understand why they didn't give it to us. same way drug dealers keep customers. the girl's gnar style is awesome except that she's a girl and all but two are bad at skateboarding and it's so UNREALISTIC.

[ThatOneKid]

I compared and contrasted--oh, wait, there is no contrast.
All modes have the same pop height, I don't know what EA means by "it's harder..."
All that's different is acceleration (top speed on flat remains the same) more bails and harder grinding.

[blackhawk17]

harder grinding.

aka harder game

there is a huge diference in speed. on hardcore it makes u feel like ur driving with the handbrake on. also on easy there is only one "pop-height", so i dont know what u mean by there all the same.

[ThatOneKid]

No, not top speed. It just takes longer to get to it. nd max pop height remains the same....

[blackhawk17]

the max pop height is the same but u can control how high u want to pop by the flick u do. its not like theres only 1 pop height. i believe theres 7 all together on hardcore at least