A hidden world, growing beyond control

[bohemian]

usa is loosing it

its time to rebell



http://projects.washingtonpost.com/t...control/print/

[HorseHead]

usa is loosing it

its time to rebell



http://projects.washingtonpost.com/t...control/print/

God damn right we're losing it. Fucked up scary article. Good find.

I wish that they would realize that there are other options besides constantly living in fear and giving in to paranoia. If they just looked into the foreign policies that make us such a target for terrorism they'd find it was more effective than wasting more money than most smaller countries make in a year. Quit trying to be the world police and quit being so arrogant as to believe that we can step in and resolve feuds that have existed longer than our country has.

[Roccityroller]

meh... you can smell the bias oozing out of it.

yea there's a lot of redundency, but redundancy can also work as error proofing.

That being said, not saying they can't be more efficient. but it's just like the automakers. We've been doing things with this spend spend spend, build build build mentality and it's worked fine for so long and now that the economy is hurting everyone is "discovering" these inefficiencies when they've probably been there for years.

[bohemian]

redundancy can also work as error proofing.

c´mon man you cant possibly accept this

[Roccityroller]

never said i accepted it, I'm an engineer, i never accept anything. but redundancy isn't always a bad thing. Can't hate on me for playing devils advocate.

Everyone is soooooo quick to point fingers and blame alll our problems on the gov't when in reality, you and me are probably twice as wasteful and redundant as any gov't, just on a different level. The difference is, when you run out of money, the govt usually has programs in act to help you out (read: welfare, food assistance, subsidized housing) but what do we do when the gov't runs out of money? point fingers at their in-efficiencies.

[bohemian]

your country is neari bancrupcy, you owe a gazillion million of dollRS all over, mainly because of eccesive warfare the last 50yrs. american people are starting to feel it, whit fazist authoroties and less work and cash each year.
and when stuff like this are being uncovered and layout out for the public, you seem to turn a blind eye. american people are slowly beeing cooked alive, like frogs
theres been a ton of wakeupcalls the last decade alone, but the general public doesnt care or dont realize it

[Demzilla]

fear and paranoia is like candy and soda to America...

its what drives our country....

take away that and were forced to think for ourselfs...
which is something the usa has worked hard for years to eliminate from our schools and colleges...
when you have people thinking you get options...
our gov doesnt want options..
never has and never will...

theres a group of folks that determine our world and a massive security paranoia state is a key part of there plan...

as for costs..
this is america...
we have no concept of the value for the dollar....
if we did...and cared...
we wouldnt have outsourced every last usefull thing we consume over seas...
on purpose..
for years...