If it wasn't for 720 or Skate or Die we'd have never have had the Tony Hawk series, and if it wasn't for Alva or Peralta we wouldn't have had Tony. We can do the chicken and the egg thing all day, it still doesn't make that Shaun White game look like anything but lazy crap. That whole "grind your way through thin air!" shit is just a shortcut from making inventive and interesting environments to skate, ALA the Skate series.
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