there wasnt much whining in GW when i played it just some rank snobs that preferred you play the exact way they wanted you to in a biuld; with D3 the fast switch bar skillset and instant scrolling in those skills i give D3 the upper hand; but not in PvP; they killed PvP in diablo with there arena only shit and GW2 will own that hands down. mixed feelings about both since i played them more or less equal time for 5+ years; I am giving the edge to GW2 even tho i will most likely be in D3 for aesthetic reasons in hardcore mode.