And I don't know why you're attacking me lol. I meant to say like plaza's things that aren't outright skatable. I never said it wasn't creative, personally I just like to see different things, and what i've been seeing lately is alot of skateparks and alot of schools, but nobody really building things that weren't MEANT to be skated. That's why when I used to skate I never went to parks, for me I felt like when you come across a spot you've gotta LEARN how to skate it. Again it's an opinion. It's not a fact. Any way mr. master said you upped a new park that's outdoors I'll check it out cuz I'm hype for it.