Well, it's true. Yes, it's sad when anyone dies. But when you have some loser drinking and speeding, this is what happens. I feel no sympathy for people who do stupid shit like this.Originally Posted by NotedDerk
Well, it's true. Yes, it's sad when anyone dies. But when you have some loser drinking and speeding, this is what happens. I feel no sympathy for people who do stupid shit like this.
sad he's gone may he rest in piece.
this is a tragic loss, but on the other hand i have zero tolerance for people drinkin' and drivin'...
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3 light beers and 3 'girly shots' in the space of 4 hours is hardly a session, i've drank more than that before i got behind the wheel, i'm not happy about it i'm just saying i have and i was fine, probably because i don't drive a car that's so easy to kill yourself in.
owning a car like that and driving it the way dunn did... it was just a matter of time, drunk or not.
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he's an amateur racer. track days and all that shit. it would be silly to call him a bad driver.
i wouldn't call lewis hamilton a bad driver, but he has his crashes.
"She had a fanny like a packet of cheddar and onion McCoys. 50p. High fat content. Stunk of coagulted cow-juice. Udder shudder. Chop an onion. Makes you cry. So did her snatch. Growled at me like a rapist's dog. My favourite crisps."
true. but i don't think there would be nearly as many insensitive 'he was a jackass' comments if hamilton died in a crash.
because he's not in jackass
maybe he'll be the replacement
"She had a fanny like a packet of cheddar and onion McCoys. 50p. High fat content. Stunk of coagulted cow-juice. Udder shudder. Chop an onion. Makes you cry. So did her snatch. Growled at me like a rapist's dog. My favourite crisps."
Good drivers keep it on the track. Just saying.
It's rumored that who ever was driving, was going 120mph in a 55mph area. I don't care how "good" of a driver you are..the area is 55mph for a reason.
As for the Westboro people...yeah, I can see someone from that group getting severely hurt. I know if someone was disrespecting my close friend/family member like that...I'd get very pissed off and start kicking some serious ass.
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I heard 130 on the news today. Like I said, if you know what you're doing, you know where to do it. NOT on the roads.
His Blood Alcohol level was like .129, twice the legal limit. Still very sad regardless of how it happened and it's easy for someone to say it isn't sad, when it's not someone close to them.
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I agree with Stoked on this. People have and will do "jackass" type crap regardless of a TV show.
And Bam is a better skateboarder than most will ever be in their lives. Sure he's a dick but there's tons of dicks in the world. No need to single him out for it.
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I think thats the toxicology reports or something that determines weather there was any other substances (drugs basically) in his system. From what I heard that will tell you exactly what he had in him at the time of the crash. The alchohol blood level can be done in couple hours I'm led to believe, which just shows numbers.
Don't agree with people sayin he killed himself and took Zacks life with him. If you chose to get in a car with a driver you know to be under the influence of drugs or alchohol, I believe it's as much your responsability for what happens to you as the driver. Unless someone points a gun to your head and says get in.
Stupid, yes, but still a tragedy.
A) Risk versus reward behaviors. The "Jackass" crew was paid well above and beyond the normal level of reward for their risky behavior. Major media influences many people. Seeing someone unduly rewarded for risky behavior shows it in a certain light, and major media portrayal will influence some people to see it as such. Period.
No shit people did dumb crap before this phase of televised entertainment began, but it was just usually something that someone came up with on their own to get a laugh or something. You'd have to be pretty ignorant not to know that. However, the media shows so few consequences to the behaviors and risks that are on display, and makes multi-millionaires out of the people performing the dangerous acts. Face it guys: Kids do the dumb shit they see famous people do on TV. I stand by my thought that this, if nothing else, serves to right that risk and reward imbalance. It's not a cause and effect thing by miles, just a portion of both. Yes, it's sad someone died young, but pragmatically speaking, it goes to show that leading a risky lifestyle can have dangerous consequences.
B) Bam Margera is better at skateboarding than most people, but he's a godawful example of a skateboarder. I was a fan of him in his younger years, when he was the am on Toy Machine doing new and impressive things on his skateboard. The fact he's "a dick" doesn't play into my disdain for him... It's the media figure he allowed himself to become, letting skateboarding take a backseat. Had he still been putting out awesome footage and getting spreads in magazines, or even doing well on some contest circuit in tandem with the success of his non-skateboarding he would still be respected in the skateboarding community. But, that new and impressive stuff he USED to do only served as a launchpad for all the crap he's done since, and as he gained his initial fame via skateboarding, the mainstream media still lumps him in as one of us. Fact is, he more or less abandoned skateboarding to peruse... Uh... Acting?! Whatever you'd call his current career, yet he's still one of the biggest names in the sport. He's almost the Larry Gaga of skating. He's not a famous skateboarder for skateboarding any more than Gaga is famous for being anywhere near a decent musical artist. It's all superficial shit glorified in the name of something I hold above that debased level of superficiality.
In summary - Media has made the behaviors of the Jackass crew more appealing to attempt by some by rewarding said behaviors beyond typical means. Media DOES carry influence over more people than anyone would call normal. Very rarely does said media bother to show nearly the consequences that would balance out the level of reward it offers. For once, those easily influenced by media have something tangible to connect with those consequences. NO, TV didn't make people act dangerously, but it did, for some, entice, justify, or encourage people to behave poorly.
And fuck Bam Margera.
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